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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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 - posted 01-12-2009 07:46 PM      Profile for Caleb Johnstone-Cowan   Email Caleb Johnstone-Cowan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Hammersmith Odeon hasn't shown films for a long time, it is now called the Apollo and is one of the major live venues in London. I've seen a stage show here and it is great. Sad thing is that had the place remained as a cinema it would have been carved up beyond recognition by now.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Not counting the Kokusai (Daiei) and the Toho, Honolulu's two first run Japanese movie theatres that had 70mm equipment but did not use them and the two IMAX theatres, there were a total of twelve theatres that were able to show the wide format film in the city. One of them, the Kailua was a drive in movie theatre that used the projectors from the Hilton Hawaiian Village Dome theatre after it had closed. The Kailua presented only one film in 70mm and it was MY FAIR LADY after it had completed it's reserved seat engagement at the Cinerama. Today, the Kahala #1 is the only 70mm theatre in Honolulu but I doubt it will ever show any film in that format again.

-Claude

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Brian D. Whitish
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Dick is correct the theatres was the Rose Moyer. I worked for Moyer from 1979-1988. We ran Jedi interlocked in the two large houses at the Rose Moyer. Star Trek the motion picture was 35mm. The 70mm equipment at the Rose Moyer was installed for reissue of Sleeping Beauty. Tanasbourne and Bagdad got 70mm for Quest for Fire. By the way Dick. Pete Kerchinsky says Hi!

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Brian Guckian
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Coincidentally this topic is to be addressed shortly at www.in70mm.com in the 65/70mm Workshop section.

The information we have obtained is pretty much the same as on this thread.

A former colleague who worked in the London West End in the 1960s and 1970s recounted how chain hoists were also used when towers for 35mm were first brought in.

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Paul H. Rayton
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From one of the Pauls that Bill Gabel mentioned in his post earlier, about the Avco -- a few final (?) reminiscences from the good ol' days of the AVCO in Westwood:

It was a "two man house" from the earliest days of operation (opened in, approx. '72 or '73 or so), one man downstairs for the big theatre, and one man upstairs for the twins.

The first time I ever worked there was in about 1977, on a relief basis, running "The Turning Point". At that time, it was two man operation, and I was downstairs.

When I started working there full time, which was in January, 1984, it had gone one man, and one guy did everything, upstairs and downstairs. I made the joke that working there (running up and down the two flights of stairs) must be equivalent to "dog lives", in that our lifespan would be shortened by the occasional panic runs up and down the steps. But now, in retrospect, maybe that stairway extended our lives, rather that shortening them.

We had a wonderful long run of "Out of Africa" (1985, into 1986), and that one was long enough that we had 3 reels of 70mm downstairs, necessitating a change-out of reels to complete the movie. We'd leave built-up reel #1 tails out, put on the smaller, shorter reel #3, and then rewind both during the intermission, to end up with reel #1 ready to thread for the next show. There was no lift, so removing a full reel from the upper (feed) spindle was completely impossible.

The PEC-1000 automation (and, more particularly, the cue pickup for it) was problematic. I hated it. It was a major accomplishment to get the cue sensor into precisely the "right" position so it would reliably catch the foil cue (which, in 70mm, moves a bit faster than 35mm) for the changeover. And every now and then it missed. Damn! As often as we could, we'd try to be downstairs for the changes, but sometimes scheduling just didn't allow for it, and of course **THAT** would be the time the cue failed to trigger the changeover. Loverly.

As for Bill's comments on the sound equipment, he's right, but that was a bit later on. When I first started there, it was a li'l ol' CP-50 upstairs there in Cinema 2, as it was known at the time -- the smallest of the theatres there. Later upgraded to the CP-200.

I've got photos of some of these things, esp. the colossal reels for 70mm in the big theatre (Cinema 1), and one of these days I'll have time to dig them out and post them...

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