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Author Topic: Shooting your own test films? Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-21-2009 06:46 PM                     Yes, it is true that all Super-35 productions shoot their own target...it is silly though. Have a standard and stick to it. If there was the standard, then Panavision could ensure the camera is in spec...before issuing the camera. Screening Rooms could then always be equipped for the standard Super-35s (typically 2.39 or 1.85). SMPTE used to supply P16BT... I they are out now. NTAV would be the best bet for making it again though. The NTAV tone and noise are superior to Dolby's in that they are much more consistant. Dolby hasn't made two pink noise films that agree with each other. Steve  |  IP: Logged Brian Guckian Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 594 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Apr 2003 posted 02-25-2009 12:46 PM                     quote: Steve Guttag The problem arises that it isn't enough to just make the film...it has to be measured to ensure it is accurate...it really lowers the yeild (profitability). If an entity were to make 16PA...how much do you think they would sell in a year? One answer to that is to charge more and communicate that it is effectively a precision scientific instrument, essential for maintaining standards. Also, there should be some way of including test films by classifying them as a piece of equipment when procurement is being carried out for new builds. That way (also like for items such as frame counters), the costs are "buried" within the very high initial capital input phase (typically no money being forthcoming for anything further, once the cinema is up and running). Interestingly on the subject of Super-35mm test films, there was one produced by a major Hollywood FX house about 10 years ago that used a super-accurate computer-generated target marked up not only for 2.40 and 1.85 Super-35, but also for a "Super" version of 1.66! Unfortunately this was an internal-use only film, but it showed it could be done. Presumably other major FX / post houses have produced their own Super-35mm charts that are vastly more accurate than camera charts, in which case perhaps one could be licensed to the SMPTE for production. Since there is no projectable image area standard for Super-35mm, maybe such a test film could then be sold as a "guide film".  |  IP: Logged

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