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Author Topic: STUDIO MOVIE GRILL CITY CENTRE Kurt Zupin Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 989 From: Maricopa, Arizona Registered: Oct 2004 posted 03-28-2009 06:08 AM                     Well I agree with everyone above, it looks great. A real achievement indeed. Congrats Brad, there's a reason your at the top of our Industry.  |  IP: Logged Bruce McGee Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1776 From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular. Registered: Aug 1999 posted 03-29-2009 12:12 PM                     Congratulations on your work, Josh and Brad.  |  IP: Logged Brian Guckian Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 594 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Apr 2003 posted 03-30-2009 07:37 AM                     quote: Tony Bandiera Jr I want to also add my congrats to Brad and the team for an excellent job..would have loved to see some film equipment instead, but cest la vie. Ah, but you are mistaken! Brad has clearly left lots of room for a DTS-70 installation, with 70mm endless loop platters in keeping with the fully automated nature of the projection room Great to see loudspeaker baffles behind the screens as well  |  IP: Logged Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-30-2009 04:33 PM                        I guess, there is no away out of it. It's coming, whether we like it or not. And as it is so, this looks the perfect way to do it. If this installment runs as good as it looks, You've done a very fine job. Congratulations !! I'm still curious to hear the standard audience speak. -Do they spot the difference ?? Will it sell more tickets ?? And I would like someone to tell me, how smaller houses pay for this gear in the States ? Here, the bill will be on 110.000 Euro per screen (I have two). My total ticket income is 200.000 Euro a year... In Germany, distributors pay a nice fee for every new title, opening digital instead of the expensive film print. I do not think, we will be able to get an agreement like that here. Even with less than 180 theatres left in Denmark, we are unable to stand together as the germans can. "Bolt" opened the ball with 3 cinemas running digital 3D, 6 more will follow for "Monsters", and be assured, the distributors are ready with their message: "See: Real cinemas does that without crying..." No shit: If I'd had the money, there would have been one more cinema, the theatre union could have called illoyal. -but I haven't, and therefore, I'm one hell of a loyal kid ! It's not just a question of being old-fashioned romantic or anything like that, when hug my old DP70's every night on the way out. Getting SR-D and DTS was tough on my budget, -the next step may be fatal. But again: Great job, guys - thanks for sharing the pictures ! All the best Per  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-30-2009 10:44 PM                     Well, I'm late to the party an all the hors d'oeuvres are gone but... What can I say but what has been said before: sad that there's not even a token 35mm machine in the booth (sorry, John W, Photoshop cannot erase the sadness), but for a purely digital booth with all that integration with the rest of the facility it's kick-butt impressive. Hats off to Brad and crew! Brad: Not that I'd want to turn the lobby into a bus terminal or airport, but could your system control a system providing synthesized announcements of showings about to begin, such as, “Coraline in 3-D begins in screen #5 in five minutes?”  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-31-2009 12:46 AM                     I'd have to give it some thought on how to integrate it, but I'm sure anything is possible. What I wanted to do was to do a 6 panel curved video wall, sort of like Cinerama, surrounding half of the lobby using 6 projectors instead of that one 16:9 video screen to create a 96:9 aspect ratio. The idea got shot down, but one of my guys and I did author some test content and tie it into the automation successfully. Maybe it will get used on the next job.  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 03-31-2009 09:58 PM                     Nice job Brad, sort of eerie though with just boxes on boxes at the ports. I'll agree with Aaron on the noise issue, D-Cinema is very noisy from fans, fans and more fans, cheap noisy damned fans. Our XLs are barely audible outside the booth on a quiet movie passage but the Barco's fans can be heard everywhere, plus the heat, with the exception of the lamp is discharged into the room. The Doremi server we had this past weekend had an especially screamy fan. For the price of this stuff one would think they could use some quieter fans, I know they exist, I have some.  |  IP: Logged Bastiaan Fleerkate Film Handler Posts: 85 From: Linschoten, Utrecht, The Netherlands Registered: Jun 2006 posted 04-01-2009 08:38 AM                        Nice Job! Only.... It's sad to see a projection booth without any 35mm projectors, platters, etc. In the Netherlands we're replacing our 35mm apparatus and there not a lot of new installations. So it's common to see 35mm equipment next to digital projectors. A while back someone sacrificed a DP70 to make room for a digital installation. It's sad to see stuff like that make place for something that will not last half the time the DP70 did... When seeing the subject of the photo's, I first thought about old automation. That's because I work in the one of the first cinema's that installed automation for it's 35mm installation in the Netherlands (I've been told). Two auditoriums have their original Zeiss-Ikon automation rolls and we're still using them... [ 04-01-2009, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Bastiaan Fleerkate ]  |  IP: Logged Jaime Tuzzio Film Handler Posts: 50 From: Salem, OR, USA Registered: Apr 2008 posted 04-02-2009 03:42 AM                 I arrived in Houston on the 9th for a week and drove by this place every single day I was there as I was staying close by. The rain I brought with me from Oregon ruined some of my plans so I was looking for stuff to do. If I'd known I definitely would have checked this place out. In conversation elsewhere this whole set up really impressed, though I can't imagine working in a filmless theatre without so much as a breaker to flip. Projection is the "magic" of it for me, and powering up a building gets me ready to be productive and powering down gets me very ready to go home (want me to feel lost in time and space: put me on a mid-day shift). The question came up as to what kind of back up there is should the ticketing system crash. If the lights, HVAC, etc. all run off of a show time schedule, what happens when the schedule no longer exists? You know, I thought all of the wiring I can see in my booth was dressed quite nice, but after looking at those pictures I want to cut every zip tie and do it all again. With a ruler.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 04-02-2009 11:08 AM                     quote: Jaime Tuzzio If the lights, HVAC, etc. all run off of a show time schedule, what happens when the schedule no longer exists? If the show schedule doesn't exist, then they won't be running movies that day. Regardless, towards the bottom of the matrix rack there are two lockboxes (that are not locked) which look like this: Inside those are springwound 12 hour timers in the highly unlikely event of a problem.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-26-2009 11:34 AM                     Well I was watching these pictures again and again before I thought to post a comment. My only comment , except a job Well Done, is that the colours used with those 14/4C cables (looks like the Liberty 4 core speaker cables) are wrong! The correct method would be to take the RED as Right +, BLACK as Right -, WHITE as Left + and GREEN as Left - . But of course to all who did this. Brad, I think using an automation system like a Crestron coupled with the CA would be easier and faster. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 04-26-2009 12:12 PM                     I don't know if I would use the term wrong as unconventional...there is no real right/wrong with speaker wiring as it does not follow the NEC where both Red and Black are "high" with green and white being low and green being lower than white...and even the NEC is not as fussy as one would think...white is the most protected color as Neutral...not green as Ground....but I digress. In the typical electrical wiring make up...the first pair is White and Black...by NEC convention, Black is the "high" side. The third wire is Green (ground) and the 4th wire is Red (second phase wire) and is consider a hot wire. In this respect...everything is wired "properly" However, in audio wiring...the first pair is Red and Black with Black being the low wire (opposite from normal power electrical wiring). The second pair is Green and White. For most White is the "high" wire but in Cinema...it was established with the solar cells that Green (right channel) would be the High wires and Black the Low. When we wire with 4-conductor speaker wires...we will use Red as high, black low and Green high with white low. This is uniform from cell to speaker. Even with White/Black cables (which we don't use whenever possible), we keep black as low...Thus color to color as much as possible. However, all of the speaker cables we specify now are indeed Red and Black (on at least the first pair). Here is an example of how we wire racks: crossover in monitors thread Its not that it is the "correct way"...it is "A" way as is Brad's. Open your mind to other ideas. Steve  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-26-2009 02:18 PM                     In custom installation work, all manufacturers label their equipment on the back using the colour scheme I mentioned. Although as you say Steve there is no right and wrong in the connection scheme prefered, it's good keeping a standard. Russound for example has coloured terminal blocks with red,black,white,green and have red and white as positives and black and green as negatives. This also matches most other multizone system manufacturers and some others. Personally I would prefer passing separate 2 instead of 4 conductor. Although a 4 conductor cable makes installation easier, installers need to be very carefull in the correct wiring. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 04-26-2009 02:40 PM                     Demetris, it was a matter of keeping the speaker wiring the same in the auditorium vs. the booth since the speaker wiring had been done before we finished the racks. (You can only see some of the surround hookups in that picture.) Regardless, the racks were supplied with a full terminal block breakout. Remember, the rack is MUCH more than just speaker connections in there. There is some logic to it, but you would ideally need to be looking it at with the breakout card in hand to see why some of the colors were done the way they were. Not everyone drives on the right side of the road either, but so long as you know what side you are supposed to be driving on, its not a problem.  |  IP: Logged

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