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Bradley Johnson
Film Handler

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From: Newport, WA, USA
Registered: Feb 2009


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quote: Steve Guttag
You ARE using Dolby Tone...right...not pink noise to set levels.
Yes I am using Dolby tone to set the Dolby level.

quote: Louis Bornwasser
I agree with Sam; the 222sr/a is not that bad especially with exciter lamps or Jax lites. It becomes somewhat worse with a really good LED reader, especially if you are flat up to 16K.
We have upgraded from mono Jax lites to the RSTR-2000 readers, but I have to tell you that this is not some audiophile bat ear type difference, it is night and day. When I set everything up with good Dolby tone on the mono setting and then played a trailer, it was completely unacceptable. It actually sounds very good at the moment (set Dolby level on SR setting instead of mono)but I am not ruling out the possibility of a bad 222 card, especially after having the bad 150 card right out of the gate. I did buy the CP-65 off ebay, it could have been filled with someones bad leftovers???? [Frown] We are at least up an running at this time and the owner is over the top happy with the results, but I want this thing to run "by the book" so I will be getting to the bottom of this issue. I am trying to get a CE pink generator off ebay, and that will eliminate quite a few questions and get the system in the ballpark. Then I can actually make some more educated deductions,,,,,unless, of course, one of you guys out bids me,,,,,then I will have to borrow Scott's! [Smile]

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Sam D. Chavez
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From: Martinez, CA USA
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The Cat. No. 85 only checks the B-chain, but it won't do anything to deduce the condition of the 222 card.

It does sound more and more like a bad 222 card.

I've got some used Cat. 350's you can borrow as well as an old style Cat. 85 if you need them for process of elimination.

Do check Voltage level at the output of the preamp as I mentioned before. If it's way off after you've set Dolby level it's further indication of trouble in the 222.

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Bradley Johnson
Film Handler

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From: Newport, WA, USA
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 - posted 04-23-2009 01:32 AM      Profile for Bradley Johnson   Email Bradley Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The cinema is closed on Thursdays so I will have all day tomorrow to test. I will check the pre-amp voltage. I do understand that the 85 will only help me with the B-chain side of things and not with diagnosing the cat 222, but I need to properly set my outputs and EQ. I think only then I can make an educated diagnosis on the 222. I have been doing everything with a KT DN-6000 RTA and a hand held DB meter. Without having the C85, it is possible that my gain structure is totally sideways. [Eek!]

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004


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quote: Bradley Johnson
I did buy the CP-65 off ebay, it could have been filled with someones bad leftovers???? [Frown]
Rhuh, ro Rastro. I have a sneaky suspicion I know who you got it from...he's well known for passing off junk. Post the seller's eBay name here if you dare, or send it to me in a PM and I can confirm...

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