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Andy Frodsham
Expert Film Handler

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From: Stoke on Trent, Staffs, UK
Registered: Nov 2006


 - posted 05-16-2009 02:42 AM      Profile for Andy Frodsham   Email Andy Frodsham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have absolutely no complaints about DTS technically; it's a brilliant system which has never let us down. Factor-in the difficulties regarding disc circulation and the overall effectiveness of the system falls seriously into dispute.

I do agree that DTS can't (or should not need to)singly shoulder responsibility for disc distribution but when all the other links in the chain seem to be so weak (or broken) I wonder where we are supposed to turn? Someone, somewhere has to take responsibility, although I cannot see anyone rushing to do so!

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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
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quote: John Hawkinson was the last to post
in the US we never got the disks from DTS since day one of Jurassic park. The disks always ceom from the distributers
I've never used DTS, but it always seemed odd to me that they should supply discs. If you received a print with a reel missing you wouldn't get a replacement from Cinemeccanica or Kodak.

If you did get discs from them, what do you do with them afterwards, do you send them to the distributor with the print, or do you return them to DTS? Getting sound and picture from different places just seems really odd.

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Andy Frodsham
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From: Stoke on Trent, Staffs, UK
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Stephen, I could not agree more with what you say. Effectively though imagine being told by a distributor that they had run-out of all the second reels of, say, 'Spiderman 3' because the laboratories had failed to provide enough copies. You would either demand that the distributor sort it out or, failing that, try the laboratory direct and take the matter into your own hands. This is what we are being forced to do.

The question of where the original fault lies is another matter.

The fact remains that there IS a problem. Despite phoning, faxing, writing and emailing in advance, we are not getting any DTS discs directly from any distributor.

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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Once again, this issue would (mostly) be solved if the ISO files could be made available for download....

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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
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These are the same problems we had with Vitaphone! Louis

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Andy Frodsham
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From: Stoke on Trent, Staffs, UK
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Yep, we all know the answer to this problem but we also know that nothing is going to change. This debate is all too familar (we have all engaged in it numerous times before)and it will continue to happen until the very last 35mm print and associated set of DTS discs go into landfill!

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Tim Asten
Film Handler

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From: Brighton, United Kingdom
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On a couple of UK Sony/Columbia prints now, we have had a note with the print saying If we want discs we need to ring them. So it seems that discs are available, but wont send out until asked. Does it really cost that much more to drop a couple of discs in the box with the film? [Confused]

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Demetris Thoupis
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From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus
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And don't forget that the discs can easily be coppied on a PC for multiple theater locations. How easy can that get!

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Daniel Schulz
Master Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles, CA USA
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Tim - Columbia are maintaining a list of DTS-equipped theatres in the UK, so once you are on their list you should always receive a disc in the film can on their titles (in other words, you should not need to request a disc for each release).

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