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Jarrad Salmon
Film Handler

Posts: 25
From: Baulkham Hills, NSW, Australia
Registered: May 2006

posted 07-06-2009 06:04 AM

Maybe it has something to do with the 3D side of things? It was made for 3D first.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-06-2009 06:18 AM

Well, if it is indeed undersized you should be witholding the same amount of percentage of the gross as there is image missing... Protest until Disnney delivers the very last percentage of the image and all the people that missed seeing it get to see that percentage of the missing image in a private screening... [thumbsup]

Gee It might change the outcome of the plot [Eek!]

Mark

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-06-2009 08:16 PM

I doubt any lab printed something that cropped the image beyond the smpte spec's
That being said everyone probably has set up a theatre and cheated a bit to cprrect a keystone size issue
digital intermediates don't allow any fudge factor since that increases file size

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John Hawkinson
Film God

Posts: 2273
From: Cambridge, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 07-06-2009 09:19 PM

Actually, Gordon, most DI movies *do* have the fudge factor. Go figure.

--jhawk

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Jim Cassedy
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1661
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Dec 2006

posted 07-08-2009 10:19 AM

I've taken an EXTRA long 4th of July holiday so I've been away
for a few days.

Before leaving, we "solved" the undersize image problem by
moving "UP" into another auditorium without the extreme
downward tilt.

I was unable to find the time to photograph the screen
as Steve Guttag suggested, although I would have liked
to have done so.

However, I DID place a section of old PA35 and one
of the key frames in register on a light table and
examined it with a loupe and the UP frames do appear
to be one 'tick' smaller than the recommended .825 spec.

I examined my print of "Ice Age" and it does not have
the black bars on each side of the frame. And I did not
have the edge problem when we showed "Bolt", "Kung Fu
Panda", "Wall-E", or "Horton Hears A Who" in that
auditorium. (Granted most of those were scope though)

At this point I'm not going to loose any sleep over it.
It was just an observation and I was wondering if anyone
else had noticted the apparantly slightly 'undersize'image.

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