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Author Topic: Displaying a green band? Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 07-04-2009 04:35 AM                        I tried it for awhile, and found chopping the bands all the way off to be like running your radio show "too tight". In some cases, it's hard to know when one thing stops and another starts. The bands do put a "divider" between the trailers. I don't have any objection to the bands, only that they are way too long for my taste. And... leaving a second's worth or so addresses the issue of chopping off any audio.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 07-05-2009 04:21 PM                        I've had the impression that Cinemark might chop the bands so they can play ignorant about programming guidelines. I took my son to see Toy Story at a Cinemark theatre and they actually ran a trailer for an R rated movie on the film. I don't remember what it was, but I'm thinking something along the lines of Eraser or Executive Decision. I have a difficulty buying the argument about saving time because saving 25-30 seconds per show doesn't really affect the operating schedule. I guess it might save some bulb life - if you're getting about 3000 hours on a bulb, saving 30 seconds per show might give you an extra 2-3 days on the bulb. The Cinemark theatre I used to go to several times a year always had really dirty prints - even 3-4 days after opening. So I can buy the idea that it was because the green bands show the dirt. But this definitely seems like the wrong mentality for fixing the problem.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 07-05-2009 06:04 PM                        Reading International's Consolidated Theatres here in Hawaii plays all of their trailers witout the green band and I personally feel it looks good. I may be wrong but I think Regal Theatres here also play trailers without the band. At least, I did not notice them -Claude  |  IP: Logged Fred Tucker Film Handler Posts: 90 From: Sugar Land, TX Registered: Sep 2007 posted 07-05-2009 07:06 PM                     quote: Andy Bajew I think those theaters actually need to worry more about not having brain wraps every day before worrying about their programming time(both Cinemark and AMC had to cancel midnight showings of Transformers half way through the screening for wraps). Sorry time to defend myself..... wasn't a brain wrap. The automation got lazy and dropped a four way interlock for no apparent reason. As for the greend bands, it's policy. Don't know why & I agree it makes things too TV like. I can only speculate but I have always hated how green bands do not have consistency from one to the next. One might be light green the next dark green, one letterboxed to the top to have the next letterboxed to the side.  |  IP: Logged Michael McGovern Film Handler Posts: 57 From: New Britain, CT, USA Registered: May 2008 posted 07-05-2009 08:41 PM                    It's definitely Regal Policy to leave the green ratings band on, it's on their blind check report, and you'll get hell if you cut them off.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 07-05-2009 08:43 PM                        I saw Ice Age 3 at a Cinemark today, first time I've been there in a while (usually go to a Regal, where the green bands are always intact). It struck me that the transitions from one trailer to the next were jarring. I like the green bands. They should be left on unless there's something horribly wrong with how they're printed. Period.  |  IP: Logged Andy Bajew Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Bellaire, Texas Registered: Jun 2009 posted 07-05-2009 10:01 PM                     quote: Fred Tucker wasn't a brain wrap. The automation got lazy and dropped a four way interlock for no apparent reason. Not to put Cinemark down, I never would, but all the lobby staff announced apparently was that the projector had broken. I tend to recommend people go to a Cinemark over most any other theater. Unless they want some beer and food with their movie, than I tell them to come to the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema. AMC tends to be the theater that cancels the most movies for brain wraps. One of our new projectionists is from AMC--what fun that was training him.  |  IP: Logged Fred Tucker Film Handler Posts: 90 From: Sugar Land, TX Registered: Sep 2007 posted 07-05-2009 11:02 PM                     Actually, I'm with AMC. Out of curiosity what is the name of your new projectionist and which location did he come from?  |  IP: Logged Andy Bajew Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Bellaire, Texas Registered: Jun 2009 posted 07-05-2009 11:06 PM                     The projectionist who now works with us is from AMC 20 in Katy. His name was Nick--I don't believe it would be appropriate to say his last name without his consent. He had seven months on the job at AMC, but it was about a year from leaving AMC to coming here to Alamo. With regard to AMC, is it true that every single usher is trained in booth operation and they switch off every other day running the booth?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-06-2009 12:08 AM                        I doubt that's true. Training everyone is about the worst thing you can do. However some theaters have been known to do just that.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 07-06-2009 03:27 AM                     quote: Andy Bajew With regard to AMC, is it true that every single usher is trained in booth operation and they switch off every other day running the booth? No. AMC doesn't do that; or at least the AMC I'm at and the one I was at (which had also been a Loews/Cineplex Odeon) before moving here didn't do it either. quote: Andy Bajew Not to put Cinemark down, I never would, but all the lobby staff announced apparently was that the projector had broken. You have to consider (as you should or likely do know) that lobby staff generally know little about film and make statements that show it.  |  IP: Logged Tom Inglis Film Handler Posts: 34 From: Croydon London, England Registered: Mar 2009 posted 07-06-2009 03:43 AM                     obviously in the UK we don't have your MPAA green bands, we have BBFC certificates before trailers. Oddly, most trailers come without it. But it's our policy that we cut the cert if there's no sound, and keep it if there is sound on the cert. We have a company logo that precedes all the trailers saying they're all suitable for the cert of the feature, so there's no real need for them. They tend to all be pretty old and crap anyway, so we ditch em if we can.  |  IP: Logged Fred Tucker Film Handler Posts: 90 From: Sugar Land, TX Registered: Sep 2007 posted 07-07-2009 03:29 AM                     No AMC doesnt do that, though most people that work at my theatre that are over 18 are atleast given a shot at working in the booth. Katy Mills does not have a presentation manager so it's quite possible he was never properly trained. I've gone over there several times to fix things, I'm horrible with names otherwise I'd probably remember him. Is it the Alamo in West Oaks that you work at? I think Tim Reed used to service that theatre back in the day.  |  IP: Logged Andy Bajew Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Bellaire, Texas Registered: Jun 2009 posted 07-08-2009 04:36 AM                     No, I work at the Mason Park location. The West Oaks location has nicer equipment--like tension arms that shut off the projector when the brain is wrapping, whereas we know we are having a brain wrap when we hear the gate pop open and the shredding of film. The AMC projectionist you asked me about told me he "doesn't need to be trained how to fix a brain wrap because he will never have one." I simply said "when you have a wrap on an interlock, you are going to wish you took my training."  |  IP: Logged Fred Tucker Film Handler Posts: 90 From: Sugar Land, TX Registered: Sep 2007 posted 07-08-2009 04:41 AM                     I hate to hear that, people that dont want to take instruction DO NOT last in my booth! I learn something new in booth everyday, not many if any of us know everything.  |  IP: Logged

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