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Mike Olpin
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Curtains need to be maintained like any other piece of equipment. Catastrophic failure at showtime is usually preventable. Each week, we walk behind the curtain and inspect the hoist cables, travel loops, and the motor to ensure that there is no wear. Spare cabling is kept on hand and cables are replaced immediately upon the first sign of wear.

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Joe Redifer
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Michael, I got your PM asking me the same question you are asking here, so I will answer it here.

I used curtains at the Mann Chinese 16 in Aurora Colorado. It was awesome. We would close the curtains 2 minutes before the trailers started and after the movie ended. I also used them once for the movie Man on the Moon where Jim Carrey pops on at the beginning and acts as if he is leaving (which he does for nearly a minute). I closed the curtains during that part and turned up the stage lights. The curtains would begin to open again right before Jim popped back onscreen. I programmed the automation to do this for each show. The audience loved it and it really added to the effect of the movie, too bad the audience was so small for that film.

Most late 90's Mann Theater builds in Denver used curtains for most if not all screens. The Bowels Crossing 12 and Colony Square 12 have waterfall curtains on all screens and the Chinese 16 has side-moving curtains on 8 screens (not sure what the proper term for that type of curtain is). I also used curtains in a similar manner for the short time I worked at The Continental in Denver during its grand "reopening". I was probably one of the few if not the only UA theater ever to make use of the curtain close barcode cue. Unfortunately all of these theaters are owned by lesser, wimpier companies now and none of them use curtains any more. [Frown]

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Vern Dias
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quote: Joe Redifer
has side-moving curtains on 8 screens (not sure what the proper term for that type of curtain is).
Commonly called a traveller.

Vern

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Victor Liorentas
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Joe that's GREAT what you did for Man On The Moon!!

We have curtains at the Hyland Cinema in London and i am very proud of it! I grew up watching curtains open and close!
In fact these curtains did that for about 50 years at the now demolished Capitol.
I saved them in 2006 just before the demolition!

The Hyland was built in 1933 with 600ish seats, closed in 1989, reopened in 2005!
Jarret and i got the curtains up and running in 2007!

The only theater in London with working curtains and stage lighting!
Showmanship lives here!

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Jarret Chessell
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stupid installing a reverse contacting relay! (still bitter about that)

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Victor Liorentas
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You know you loved it, i have pictures!
Getting the curtains to clear the bigger screen was tough too!

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Bernie Anderson Jr
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Can you guys post some of your pictures? I would love to see some of these theatres.

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Damien Taylor
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Cinema one, and quite well recreated metal proscenium at the Piccadilly. Originally a 1100 seater, this pictured auditorium (originally the balcony) now seats just over 450. Left hand side of stalls and area behind this screen converted to a further two characterless boxes.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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That is so nice, and it looks like a really sympathetic conversion unlike some of the carvery done in the UK.

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Rick Raskin
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quote: Jarret Chessell
stupid installing a reverse contacting relay! (still bitter about that)
Educate me. What is a reverse contacting relay? Are you referring to a normally closed (NC) set of contacts as opposed to normally open (NO)? In Telco land they call 'em Make for NO or Break for NC and many variations thereof.

On Topic: Practically every house I worked had curtains up until they began installing those with shadowbox screens. But even those screens had colored lights on dimmers. Most houses I ran had traveler curtains and only one or two had the waterfall. I never worked a house that had both. It was a sin to let the audience see a blank screen.

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Paul Mayer
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quote: Rick Raskin
It was a sin to let the audience see a blank screen.
That's what the ads are for! [evil]

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Michael Voiland
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The company I work for has 2 locations. one is an older general cinemas 4 or 6 or 5 plex i am still debating as theaters have been rearranged. One theater has full travelers with masking behind it the other has no curtains and is a late 80s cineaplex oden location 8 plex. I am hopefully going to be transferred back to the older location with the curtain. It needs help but it would be great to use it again.

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Jarret Chessell
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reverse contactor relay... It's two contactors together (they're mechanically joined so that only one contactor can operate at a time). The point of this is to be able to reverse your polarity to change the direction of the motor. One contactor is used for curtain open, the other is for close (we have micro switch stoppers to stop the motor or you can manually stop it during open and close). Depending on your type of motor you need to reverse the starting winding (as we did). Without the starting winding the motor just hums (60Hz) and doesn't know which way to turn.

The installation was very difficult (for me anyways), as the original unit was nothing like the replacement we acquired, and I had to actually wrap my head around it while trying to install it lol.

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Thomas Moore
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you know if it wasn't for venetian blinds, it'd be curtains for all of us

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Ron Curran
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We have draw curtains and we recently installed down lights to replace the spots that used to illuminate them. They look great but most people don't see them coz they come late to miss the ads we don't show. They do require maintenance just as our projection and sound equipment does.

I was brought up in an era when all theatres had curtains. Some theatres understood the impact of the punctuation possibilities on their audience.

A few weeks ago, we hosted a group of high school kids from a deprived area where they only have multiplexes. The teachers wrote to say how impressed the kids were. Our curtains formed a part of that impression.

Our home cinema has curtains too. Unfortunately, the little motor burnt out in a storm and we are saving our pennies to buy a proper one.

They don't make economic sense. Neither does parenthood. We love our kids and we love our curtains.

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