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Brad Miller
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 - posted 10-14-2009 10:34 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Funny, the brown ORC platters CAN run film reasonably well...if you can find the parts. Those orange ORC platters SUCK!

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Karl Borowski
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Even typewriters and horsewhips aren't entirely obsolete. In my humble opinion, using the word here is inappropriate. So, because one would have to improvise a new roller setup, it makes sense to junk the entire platter?

I am arguing this out of principle, not on the merits of the new or old ORC platter systems, but unless one's time is worth $250 an hour, and there are no skilled laborers that can be hired to do the job, it makes a hell of a lot more sense to swap out the rollers, the little plastic wheels that are probably the simplest parts on the projector, than to have to disassemble, scrap, and haul out the old platters in pieces and then haul in new platters, assemble, align, and calibrate them. That's just me though.

As for being a "new-be" I've been projecting and shooting 8- 16- and 35mm film since I was in high-school, so I think that is more important than my tenure here [Wink]

Just curious though, are we talking about the brown or orange ORC platters here? It isn't entirely clear to me.

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Gordon McLeod
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The servo control was on many orange orc after the potts version was disconinued

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Tim Reed
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Karl, when parts are no longer available it has been obsoleted by definition (to replace with newer and better). If you can make other rollers work on an old platter, and don't mind running on a hope and a prayer that nothing dies on a weekend that you don't have a replacement for -- knock yourself out, baby.

Now, get those theatres that have a whole complex full of obsoleted equipment (ORC consoles/lamps/automation, Eprad sound come to mind) held together with Band-Aids, and the fun that comes on a Saturday night when something breaks down and the theatre owner leaves you holding the bag. After all, it's "perfectly good" equipment...

No, thanks. [Big Grin]

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Gordon McLeod
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I respectively disagree overall the ORC platters have been the most reliable of the ones we deal with

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Tim Reed
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Not at all, Gordon. I understand. [Smile] Clearview still has a bunch of them, and they do hum right along. I just have had too many instances where something like that is relied on, and when the part goes that can't be replaced... they are down for however long it takes to get a new platter (which, today, is getting to be a very long time). I see it as just delaying the inevitable. [Wink]

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Louis Bornwasser
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We are helping no one by "trying to run the Indy 500 in a Model T." Not the customers, not the owners, not the studios. Louis

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John Wilson
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quote: Karl Borowski

As for being a "new-be" I've been projecting and shooting 8- 16- and 35mm film since I was in high-school, so I think that is more important than my tenure here

Sorry, was that an attempt to impress someone?

The point Adam was making is pretty obvious. When you are new to this forum, it's kind of polite to not piss people off until you are known.

Until then though, please be more aware of how arrogant you are coming across.

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Phil Hill
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quote: John Wilson
...it's kind of polite to not piss people off until you are known.

Gosh John, I'm ALWAYS polite. I've been here a long time and "well known" and haven't pissed anyone off yet. [Roll Eyes]

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John Wilson
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[Smile] [thumbsup]

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Richard Hamilton
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Phil, always polite???? hehe, my ubiquitous friend....(not sure what the fuck that means, so don't get offended)

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Karl Borowski
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That's OK, Richard. At least you have learned how to punctuate a sentence!

Oh. . . wait. Well, at least you kind-of got it right for the first one.

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Ian Parfrey
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.....and what has this got to do with the original posted question? [Confused]

C'mon guys, we're all professionals here.

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Scott D. Neff
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More to do with the orange vs. brown ORC platters (not the Potts/Super Platter type) was there any difference between them other than color? And when they became the Strong Saturn was there any real difference either?

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Gordon McLeod
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The orange electronic platter was the same as the first generation of the brown ones
THey later replaced the variac with a servopot on a belt and a seperate card for each deck
The logic for switching was done with fridgedoor switch that was pushed in when one move the takeup roller plate up and down the column

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