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Author Topic: Quickest way to fix a tails up reel on a platter? Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 11-02-2009 12:02 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley Maybe it's because it's Monday morning and I'm not awake yet, but what do you guys mean "flip the film?" You have to turn it inside-out. I tried this last night on a smaller scale with some trailers. You do have to be careful though, since the outer diameter is now inside and will now bulge inward. Not that big a deal as long as you have enough space around the brain.  |  IP: Logged Sean McKinnon Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1712 From: Peabody Massachusetts Registered: Sep 2000 posted 11-02-2009 12:05 PM                        You flip the roll of film insode out... This may cause the film to pull the wrong way on the feed plate actuator arm in this case you just flip it over (sound track down if normally run up)run it through and stop it after the reel goes through and run the rest of the print like normal. Ive done this with trailer packs where all the trailers come tails out and the rewind bench was out of service waiting on a new motor. You wind tails first onto the platter ring and build from the end first ie; last trailer first, first trailer last. When you are done you remove the center ring pick up the trailer pack in two hands and flip it inside out. When you put it back on the platter make sure the film will be orientated correctly to actuate the feed plate arm and either run through the projector or speed wind back onto another center ring and continue building your print as normal. If you have to break down a print without a center ring and cannot speed wind or run it through the projector you can always pop in a feed plate thread the film through it and then onto the MUT. You cannot go too fast as you need to keep the speed at a level where the platter and feed plate can keep up but this was you can wind your print onto reels without damaging it. Granted all the reels will be tails out.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-02-2009 01:58 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley Maybe it's because it's Monday morning and I'm not awake yet, but what do you guys mean "flip the film?" If it's on the platter, seems like if you flip it over, the only thing you'd have would be the soundtrack down instead of up, and the wind would be backwards...but the tail would still be on the outside. So how does "flipping the film" solve the tails-up problem? Mike, not just a flip over...inside becomes out and outside becomes in. Make sure you have a good grip on at least one section of film to avoid the possible spaghetti factor. quote: Jack Ondracek It's got to be a sick joke. There's no way you can take the inside diameter of the wind and convince it to be larger, merely by flipping it. No Jack, it's not a joke and yes, you do have to be very careful but we're talking a situation where if you don't do it you lose the session. It works...it looks messy but it does work just fine.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-02-2009 06:50 PM                        OK, now I get it....I think I'd never want to try it though! Luckily, I've never put a reel on tails-up (yet). Maybe I'll wind 20 minutes of old trailers onto the end of a movie and give this a try for fun sometime.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 11-03-2009 04:31 PM                     Similar to the flipping method, I've seen where someone would do a speed-wind then tear down that reel onto one of those trailer-type reels that have an unlocking hub. So now the reel has the head on the inside of the hub and the latch would be undone then the reel drops back in place in the right order.  |  IP: Logged

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