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Author Topic: Going from Simplex E7 to Simplex PR-1014? Gordon Bachlund Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 696 From: Monrovia, CA, USA Registered: Aug 1999 posted 01-04-2010 03:55 PM                        Celine, I practically grew up with Standard, Super and XL Simplex equipment. Dr. McLeod is correct as to a steady image which is in large part what you are selling your customers. It is true that replacement parts are problematic, but if the XL is properly maintained you should not worry. As to having a spare head available, that is great advice if you can afford it. Keep your XL if it is fulfilling your needs.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-04-2010 05:42 PM                        If the XL has a curved gate, then buy it. The E7, like all other straight gate machines, "breathes" in the center of the screen. Any curved gate machine will be an improvement! btw: my last 3 E7s were given away free to the last known E7 user in this area. My last 6 Brenkerts were given away to charity. . . a collector. 85% Century/12% Simplex XL around here; life is good. Louis  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-04-2010 05:47 PM                        I have an E7 as a lawn ornament  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-04-2010 06:55 PM                     I have never had breathing issues with the E7 just my own shortness of breath when I had to change the drve on the oblique shaft overall the straight gate in the E7 is still in many ways my reference to image stability no many preview rooms that use either the E7 or a FP20 the studio gate xl's all went in the bin due to image satability issues  |  IP: Logged Gordon Bachlund Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 696 From: Monrovia, CA, USA Registered: Aug 1999 posted 01-05-2010 12:32 PM                        I mis-spoke in my reply yesterday. I meant to say "Keep your E-7 if it is fulfilling yout needs." I must be getting old!  |  IP: Logged Celine Negrete Film Handler Posts: 70 From: Nevada City, CA Registered: Nov 2009 posted 01-05-2010 03:17 PM                        So, if I may ask....what is a 'reasonable price' for a 1014? And, can someone explain the difference between a XL and a 1014 so that I can be better informed ;-)  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 01-05-2010 08:12 PM                       Celine, The 1014 is just a later version of the XL. Some of the 1014 have a lens turret if that is an issue for you. Since you are running an E7 I doubt it. I have a few in stock as do others here. Feel free to contact me in Martinez, CA  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-28-2010 02:06 PM                     Celine, Most used XL heads go for less than $500 on ebay. There are so many theaters dumping their film projectors right now, you should be able to get one for a good price.  |  IP: Logged Robert E. Allen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1078 From: Checotah, Oklahoma Registered: Jul 2002 posted 01-28-2010 02:39 PM                     You're not going to have trouble finding parts if you need them. Most theatre suppliers have some sitting around. The E-7, which came out in '39, is still running in many locations. But if you can get a good buy on the XL pick it up. If I recall correctly Celine, the XL was manufactured by the International Projector Corporation which made all Simplex machines until Strong bought the company then Strong/Ballantyne changed the name to 1014.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-28-2010 03:59 PM                     You recall incorrectly. IPC made them up until Singer, then NSS and then Strong. The PR-1014 goes back to IPC days...all "XL" machines have a PR number..as in PR = projector. SH = soundhead (SH1000, SH-1012...etc). Steve  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-28-2010 04:21 PM                     quote: Steve Guttag until Singer, then NSS How did these two firms get a hold of the Simplex after IPC? I knew that the NSS units went to the bluish grey color from the black wrinkle color for the cases. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Tony Ratcliff Expert Film Handler Posts: 216 From: Madison, IN, USA Registered: Mar 2002 posted 01-28-2010 04:39 PM                     I am the last E-7 user in Louis' area he referred to. Still running the original E-7s installed when the theatre opened in 1938. So I am very sentimental about them. The only problem I have had in the 13 years I've owned this theatre is the oblique gear, the first one 2 days after re-opening the theatre. I've gone through I think 4 of them now. They seem to last about 3-4 years, which means I'm running on borrowed time about now. They definitely leak oil, but you get used to it. Have to clean the projector more often and more thoroughly. But I do have to say that my image is more steady than the multi-plex in town that is running XLs. A question for the more learned that me... Will the aperture plates from the E-7 work for a 1014 or XL? That's been my concern about have something other than another E-7 as a hot spare.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-28-2010 04:53 PM                     the e7 and the xl are different plates  |  IP: Logged John Eickhof Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 588 From: Wendell, ID USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-31-2010 11:04 PM                        Hi Celine, I am glad to see the old E7 is still doing it's job! When I installed it approx 20 years ago it had been overhauled. I can't remember if it is a vertical shaft type or the venerable obique type, anyway the number of hours you run it it should provide good service for many more! As for 'breathing' I wouldn't worry about that as your ORC M-1000 is not overheating the well made film trap! The XL is my second favorite head next to the E7! Like any other vintage 'fine tuned machine' as long as you keep it clean and oiled it will outlast most of us! If you go with an XL try and find a PR-1006 or wrinkle black vintage head and if it has the straight gate, make sure someone has installed a gate tension relief screw as the original factory tension was too extreme! (the E7 is far more gentle on film becuase of the gate design and low tension on the film!) I would like to come by one of these days and check out the old Magic Theatre...next time I am in the area. Tony... next time you replace the G-297 'acorn' gear, I would suggest you replace the steel G-258 gear on the shutter shaft as well as the BG-416 bearings... the G-258 will get wear on the teeth and they will become sharp enough to tear up the G-297...also make sure you set the backlash properly between the two gears with the necessary shims behind the oblique shaft bracket. Keep 'em running!!  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 02-01-2010 03:32 AM                     quote: John Eickhof backlash properly between the two gears with the necessary shims ..and how do I remember going through the pile of shims to get the right one for that right clearance on that "acorn" gear replacement...that is what really slows down the install.. -Monte  |  IP: Logged

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