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John Wilson
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 - posted 01-31-2010 03:18 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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On the last show in the first building, just thread it through your interlock rollers and have it take up on the platter in the next building. The print moves itself!
Joe, me likee you thinkin'.

Proof...

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Monte L Fullmer
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Ya John .. that's-a pretty slick interlock. Joe need to pop on a link of his famous "Interlock 101" at the Arapahoe 16 the FT crew did a while back...

..I think I only saw one accumulator in that whole travel, but correct me if I'm wrong...

-Monte

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John Wilson
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 - posted 01-31-2010 08:47 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Monte

It's not an interlock, but simply a transfer of the print to its next screening location...hence no accumulators.

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Gordon May
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We just clamp our's and hope that the film does not come loose. Oh, the days of Lord of the Ring, Return of the King!!!!! Our office double booked a show of Return of the King in the same building and this building was across the city, about 12 miles and the film was so big our clamps would not fit it. So I got two of the long ends and bolted them together with some foam in between the clamps and the film on the top side. It took two of us to put it in my van and then on the platter.

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Jonathan Smith
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Hey first post here!

How much do those 2-3/4 hour full movie reels cost?

That looks like a good buy. . .

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: John Wilson
but simply a transfer of the print
...Oh, okey then ... like a super long version of Brad's cinema grill installs where the print goes from one platter to another platter for takeup... Still, pretty slick though.

quote: Jonathan Smith
How much do those 2-3/4 hour full movie reels cost?

First, welcome to Film-Tech! Put a plug in about yourself in the "Yak/Who the heck are you" sub-forum..and on to your question: Check with your local dealer/supplier for the pricing for maybe he can cut you a deal on the price for one of these units.

thx-Monte

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John Wilson
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Exactly. Moving AVATAR is a breeze. [Wink]

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Tony Ratcliff
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 - posted 02-02-2010 07:44 PM      Profile for Tony Ratcliff   Email Tony Ratcliff   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Would that Platter Reel work on my Eprad Sword?

If so, that could be great for me.

I often get prints from the local multiplex.
They put the print on 6000' reels for me.
So if they could put it directly onto one of these
and I could then put it directly onto the Sword,
I wouldn't have to build the films back up I get from them.

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Scott Norwood
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It will fit on a pin-drive 1/2" shaft, like the Kelmar table. They definitely work on Eprad double-MUTs.

Note that if you take up onto one of these at a platter house, the print will be tails-up, and (usually) emulsion-out. You'll have to rewind it to play it on a large-reel system. Conversely, if you take the film up on a large-reel system onto a platter reel and can wind the film emulsion-out, you can take the entire thing into a platter house, plop it onto the platter, remove the top half, and run the print as-is. (Again, this works great with the double-MUT; I have not seen a Sword.)

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Monte L Fullmer
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EPRAD's S.W.O.R.D. system looks like an oversized mini MUT with the projector sitting on top of it.

Look in the PICTURES section, then to DRIVE-INS, then to the MALDEN DR.IN to see a SWORD in action. Two years after I left the drive-in field, the owner took out the old Motiograph/Ashcraft setup and put in a pair of PRO 35's sitting on top of these SWORDS

Advantage with the SWORD is that you can replay part of the first feature over again, then rewind it back to the beginning if you have a pair of these SWORDS in your booth.

-Monte

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Scott D. Neff
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When I circuited movies off the theatre up the street we'd often just get them clamped. They were our competition so they would just remove their trailer pack before the last show and play it onto a ring. We would either bring them a replacement or return theirs after we got it back.

Yes - depending on how tightly (or loosely) it wrapped we had the ocassional hiccup, but it was much better than having an overzealous projectionist overload a 6000" because they didn't want to put one reel back onto the platter. Or worse yet, they would sometimes cut right in the middle of the reel once it got full.

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Frank Angel
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First off, make sure the exhibitor has booking clearance to run the title in both locations. Exhibtion rights are location specific and some times even screen specific (the distrib wanting their product played in an auditorium of a given number of seats). Prints can't be played in any theatre the exibitor happens to own at his whim. Sure, a lot of stuff goes on that's not particularly kosher and no one says anything about it, but should a question arise over an engagement happening in a location that is not licensed, a lot of unnecessary sheet can hit the fan, all of which is much easier to avoid before the fact rather than trying to clean it off the walls after it hits.

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Manny Montes
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We have a sister theater that is about 8 miles away, for that trip I just Z-wrap the last showing, clamp it up and move it with my car. If its a really big movie and i'm worried, i'll break it down onto 6k house reels and move it that way.

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Jason Black
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 - posted 02-15-2010 07:24 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does anyone still move prints? I thought that the entore exhibition industry had gone DIGITAL.. ya know, because of it's inherent superiority to FILM? (LOL)

That said.. I always broke down on 6k reels if the print was to leave my booth. In house, we clamped and had two, sometimes three - depending on run time, people moving the prints.

Anyone who clamps and moves a print single handedly is ASKING for disaster. When the time comes that a print drops, and trust me, it WILL HAPPEN, you'll be sorry you didn't use more hands or a better transfer method..

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Jonathan Althaus
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3+ years of moving prints with 1 person here, and no drops or disasters. If done right you won't drop them and I've moved some very loose prints. If I'm sending a print away I'll put it on 6k's, but if I'm getting a print, even if its late thursday or early friday, I prefer it to be completely torn down.

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