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Author Topic: Dropping Prints!!!!! Help!!!! Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-07-2010 07:50 PM                     Agree, but we managed without the holes and simply learned to be careful. I thought about punching holes in the board a while back, but figured we've done this for so long, why bother.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-07-2010 09:52 PM                     Monte... You are destined to get that Technical Oscar!  |  IP: Logged Sally Ann Burgess Expert Film Handler Posts: 120 From: Queenstown, New Zealand Registered: Apr 2008 posted 03-07-2010 11:48 PM                     Hi Zack This is how we carry our prints using a ratchet tie-down. Around the print, we don't use tape to secure the end but we make up a label out of old film that wraps around and we velcro the ends together.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-08-2010 12:34 AM                     quote: You are destined to get that Technical Oscar! Thx! .. When you have worked for "band-aid and ductape" cinema companies when their main habits are counting multi-colored beans in a big jar, you definitely do your best to make work fun. But, Sally has the right idea in using that 'ComeAlong' -Monte  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 03-08-2010 01:24 AM                     Only difference between what I used and Sally's pic was the center hole bigger so that it could fit reasonably around any size brain/payout-doohicky.  |  IP: Logged Phil Ranucci Expert Film Handler Posts: 236 From: Carpinteria,CA, United States Registered: May 2006 posted 03-08-2010 02:05 PM                     Sally, why does it look like your platter is up on blocks?  |  IP: Logged Sally Ann Burgess Expert Film Handler Posts: 120 From: Queenstown, New Zealand Registered: Apr 2008 posted 03-08-2010 03:28 PM                     Hi Phil, That platter has always been on those blocks, bit odd as the other two are not! I was told it was because of the wooden floor and vibrations coming through it. I didn't know any better so I said "Urm, OK"  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-08-2010 05:14 PM                     "Plywood Palaces" True, the vibrations from the machinery can really hum through the wood flooring and people in the building can really hear it. I worked in a dinky 3plex where plywood was the major substance used, esp with booth flooring. We either had to wear slippers or go in stocking feet since the people in the houses can hear us walking across the floor...  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 03-08-2010 07:10 PM                        quote: Monte L Fullmer I thought about punching holes in the board a while back I would think a couple parallel slots on either side of the middle would be more appropriate since the position of the pins would be different with virtually every print. I'm thinking about asking my boss if he could have one of these made. I would do it myself except I don't have access to wood working tools. **EDIT** Thinking about this further, this wouldn't work for my theatre because half of our platters have fixed brains.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-08-2010 08:51 PM                     quote: Justin Hamaker Thinking about this further, this wouldn't work for my theatre because half of our platters have fixed brains. Yo - Justin: Don't give up this idea, for it has worked before (excuse the rough traceout of an alternative way to move prints with a board) You make the same pattern on the plywood, but use 3/8" plywood to make it a bit thicker to compensate for the cutout in the middle to keep the strength, but make the center cutout the width slightly larger than the width of the brain so the print can be lifted over the brain with the board. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 03-08-2010 09:34 PM                        I have one like you show without the board on the end. It works fine for moving within the same booth, but your design would be more useful for moving prints to our drive-in. Except the drive-in platter has a fixed brain. Once you take that slice out to slide around the brain, it sort of defeats the purpose of having that board on the end to support print because you can't really carry it the same way.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-08-2010 10:04 PM                     ..and that is when you prob clamp the print then instead of the board... For when we did have that forked board, it was used as an in-house board. Good luck-Monte  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 03-08-2010 11:10 PM                        After having a clamped print of "Cars" fall apart in transit to the drive-in, I started breaking everything down onto 6000' reels. It's time consuming, but better than having to spend 2-3 hours fixing a print that falls apart.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-09-2010 02:39 AM                     How many prints have you dropped? I would think after the first people would have gotten the idea that more care needs to be taken. Film clamps are a pretty self-explanatory device; I would question if the issue is really that people don't know how to use them or if they simply AREN'T using them. Another isue of course is if you have enough film clamps. Mininum is 2, 3 is better, 4 is best. A secondary cause could be a loose wind in the print. What model platters do you have? If the prints aren't being wound tight enough they would be much harder to move. I wouldn't reccomend it, especially with all the problems you've had, but when a print is wound properly it can be moved short distances even without clamps, IF you know what you are doing.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 03-09-2010 08:23 AM                     I have never dropped a print, though I have come close, twice. I use a U-shaped print moving board. They are great for sliding under prints easily, with the edge at the front thinned down to allow for easy sliding under the film at the edge of a platter.  |  IP: Logged

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