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Connor Kirkwood
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From: Portland, OR, USA
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 - posted 03-31-2010 08:33 PM      Profile for Connor Kirkwood   Email Connor Kirkwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for all the help and info, everybody. I'll post info on the monitor as soon as I get back to the theater.

Ian: The problem never seems to occur in non-sync, thus it has never been an issue for films run on our digital projector. Unfortunately, our amps have no meters to help us isolate the issue.

Richard: Our left and center channels run through separate amps.

We're going to re-seat the cards. If that doesn't help, we were considering just unplugging the monitor. I'm still unclear on the concept of the monitor loading the signal to the amps, but wouldn't it just drag the problem over to another auditorium if we swapped monitors? I understand that this would isolate the problem, but we only have one projectionist on duty at a time to monitor the theaters, so we would have to rely on customer complaints if the problem recurred in the original auditorium.

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Jeremy Weigel
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 - posted 03-31-2010 08:55 PM      Profile for Jeremy Weigel   Email Jeremy Weigel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Connor Kirkwood
but wouldn't it just drag the problem over to another auditorium if we swapped monitors?
That's the whole point. If the problem follows the monitor in to the other machine, then you almost certainly have a bad monitor. You then swap them back to verify that that the problem occurs again in the original machine. If so, then you can be 99.99% sure the monitor defective. If it doesn't follow and still occurs in the original machine, then you can proceed to look into other causes.

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Gordon McLeod
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How is your digital wired and to what channels
Also what output card do you have in the CP50

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Louis Bornwasser
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I'm going to guess that the Lt is intermittent, which kills the left and reduces the center. The monitor only seems to be involved. If necessary, remove the monitor.

Look at red led system and the preamp card (108) or cat 22. You could reverse the cat 22's. Louis

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Gordon McLeod
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the part that doesn't make sense is it only happens in film mode yet the monitor affects it
if one had similar levels from an external source an issue with the monitor should affect both
is the external source routed to the same channels
I have had many of the smart showman monitors and the rentec ones cause strange loading issues at high levels

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Connor Kirkwood
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 - posted 04-13-2010 04:35 AM      Profile for Connor Kirkwood   Email Connor Kirkwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I thought I'd give an update on our sound issue, since everyone was so helpful with suggestions.

We ended up swapping the booth monitors with another house in order to isolate the problem. So far the sound problem hasn't recurred in either theater. Our projectionist also cleaned the contacts on the cards and re-seated them, as suggested. Unfortunately, it's impossible to tell if either of these things actually fixed the issue, or if it will return in a few months as it did before.

I'll post any further developments.

For those interested, the booth monitor in question is an MS-55.

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