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Joe Redifer
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quote: Scott Norwood
One thing that always seems awkward is what to do when there is a discussion or Q&A following a film
That is awkward. Celebrated actor Benjamin Bratt was at our theater not too long ago to do a Q&A after a show. I asked him when he wanted me to bring up the lights and he gave me a spiel about the songs in the credits and when I should bring them up and let the credits roll to the end. But as soon as the credits started he sent someone up to tell me to turn them up immediately and then walked into the auditorium and began signaling me to stop the show entirely.

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Scott Norwood
One thing that always seems awkward is what to do when there is a discussion or Q&A following a film with an extremely long credit crawl, especially with audiences that have been conditioned to get up and leave as soon as the credits hit the screen.
Wouldn't it be best just to have some representative announce that the Q&A session will happen afterwards and say who it is that's part of it? That way, the people who want to talk to the guy will know to either not leave or at least come back after going to the restroom and such.

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Mike Blakesley
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I agree that scenes during the end credits are a pain but they are kind of nice during 3D movies --- the crowd comes out in dribs and drabs, so glasses collection is easier.

We leave the lights at full-off until the screen has nothing but credits on it.

If there is an additional scene at the end of the movie I'll make the lights go off again for that. It is part of the show after all, and those uber-fans invest minutes of their lives to sit through the boring credits to watch the extra scene. I think the least we can do is make it all the more dramatic by dropping the lights.

Our crew is strictly instructed to never turn on the cleaning lights or start cleaning unless everyone's out of the auditorium. If we have a tight schedule (early show started late, or something) the lights still operate as normal, but I'll let the crew start picking up stuff behind the still-seated people, but never in front.

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Ron Curran
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After credit scenes are a real pain for cinemas like our that have curtains.
Blank screens should never be seen. It would be a good idea to have a studio logo following an end scene. Something that lasts about 17 seconds.
These days, when there are ways to find out who checked the oil in the vehicles that were used by the caterers, there is no real need for long credits.
They can serve a purpose in a drama when the audience needs a transmission from the finale to exit but the longest credits are attached to the kids films, which also have those after thought end scenes. That is when you require a cleaning staff almost as numerous as the credit list.

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Carl Martin
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as an audience member, i get pretty annoyed when credits are interrupted for a q&a, as sometimes happens at film festivals. i ought to be able to see and hear the entire movie i paid for, and i do watch the credits, always. tell the audience before the show that there'll be a q&a, and during the credits those who can't be bothered with it can exit without seeming rude.

quote: Ron Curran
These days, when there are ways to find out who checked the oil in the vehicles that were used by the caterers, there is no real need for long credits.
where exactly do you go to find these credits other than the end-of-movie scroll? they're not all on imdb.

a "filmmaker" wanted me to kill sound and bring up lights at the start of credits for his spiel, and, thinking this would dissuade him, i said the wireless mike system would pick up noise from the lamp (which has happened before and i didn't want to risk it). so he had me kill the bulb too. it was a rental... what could i do? it was a shitty movie though.

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Mike Blakesley
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I've always thought that the credits should be in a "brochure" that could be handed out, or on a onesheet that could be displayed next to the auditorium showing the film. That way the 1% of the people who are interested could actually read the credits, and think of all the film and time it would save.

I do agree the cast members should be listed at the end of the film, and maybe the director and writer(s). Beyond that, the vast majority of people don't care.

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Ron Curran
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Sorry Carl, I forgot to put a smily face after my comment.

Mike, I agree. The "Roadshow" film used to have a souvenir book for sale at the cinemas - didn't include all of the little people though.

We often have people sit right through to the end to find out where it was filmed.

Don't you love the patrons who leave during the credits to tell you how they love the music and want to know where you can get it. Actually, you can get it inside the theatre right now.

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John Wilson
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I screened one of Catherine Deneuve's new films a couple of years ago and she was in for a Q+A after the show. I made sure the powers that be checked with her how she wanted the credits played out. The answer came back that all of them should be played with the lights down...no problem, that is until the end of the movie came and she wanted them cut. I faded out the credit music and switched to mic as the lights came up but left them scrolling on screen.

It seems the powers that be never bothered asking her in the first place. Assholes. [fu]

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