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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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 - posted 12-09-2011 06:16 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As for dual projector 3D in the digital world...same files work for either single or dual projector...as it is, the player is sending out two different signals...so in a dual projector, one goes to each (unless you have a dual-dual player in which you can send 4:4:4 to each...the IMBs will allow 4:4:4 on 3D as well).

-Steve

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Carsten Kurz
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 - posted 12-09-2011 06:59 PM      Profile for Carsten Kurz   Email Carsten Kurz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sony licensed Panavision for their Split-Lens as well, so they now have a choice for non-metallized screens as well.

@Jack: There is a thread in this forum dealing with silver screen paint and that some/most IMAX 3D screens have been painted on location because ist was impossible or too expensive to ship silver screens that large. But I think the results are suboptimal compared to todays high-performance silver screens from Stewart or Harkness. Everyone hates silverscreens, so one should probably get the best currently possible in order to reduce the known sideeffects.

- Carsten

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 12-09-2011 08:34 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jack: on digital PAINTING is not-an-option; precluded by contract. Louis

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Jack Theakston
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 - posted 12-09-2011 10:01 PM      Profile for Jack Theakston   Email Jack Theakston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry, I should have been more specific—my theater is interested in running 35mm 3D (revival, not 1st run), but we've got a large screen (40x20) and we're weighing the financial difference between painting and getting a new silver screen all together.

In our case, we're not as worried about side seating fall-off, since the house is fairly narrow.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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Imax has been the best at painting but they put up an automated paint rig to get an even coverage. I have NEVER and I mean NEVER seen a good hand painted silver screen...they are all uneven. Also, one has to block off everything behind the screen.

I would definitely recommend replacing the screen if you want good results.

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System Notices
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Alejandro Mir
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 - posted 10-29-2014 03:51 PM      Profile for Alejandro Mir   Author's Homepage   Email Alejandro Mir   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi all,
I recently installed a large dual 3D projection system with two Barco DP4K-32B and Dual IMB Showvault, using Schneider circular polarizers. The screen is an MDI Stereoview 2.8 gain, size 75`x40` and the throwing distance is 90`.
Everything seemed perfect until we played subtitled trailers... Hobbit and Exodus... there was a terrible ghost, very noticeable. I performed all the usual checks: confirmed each projector delivers the correct image, removed the porthole glasses to avoid any depolarization, checked another piece of silver screen surface, checked that the Master Image glasses match the polarization system, but the problem persists.
There's no doubt to me that the image from one eye is crosstalking to the other one. I measured a crosstalk rate of 22 with the Shcneider polarizers, also tested Master Image polarizers and the rate was 43. The ghost was sligtly lower, but still unusable.
I also tested linear polarizers and glasses, getting a rate of 75 and a barely acceptable ghost, but still not too good.
I've done few duals before and never seen this... I already tried everything posible without success...
Does anyone knows what the reason may be? Am I reaching the limit of the polarizing system? I doubt so...
Any suggestion? [Eek!]
regards
Alex Mir
Argentina

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Marcel Birgelen
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 - posted 10-29-2014 06:11 PM      Profile for Marcel Birgelen   Email Marcel Birgelen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I doubt people really appreciate cross-posting while also reviving an old topic about 35mm 3D in the process.

Furthermore, I do think the Digital Cinema Forum is much more suited for this discussion.

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