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Author Topic: Print arrives wrapped in Saran wrap Jock Blakley Expert Film Handler Posts: 218 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registered: Oct 2011 posted 03-03-2012 07:06 AM                     It is indeed a wonderful show, Graham. Chapel Distribution have, or at least had, the Australian rights for a while and did get a new print of Zhivago about ten years ago now. As I recall it had DTS. We haven't shown it in quite some time... I suppose I could find out considering that the theatre I work for owns them Brian: regrettably this industry is all about the dollar now and that bug has bitten very strongly here. All of our prints are either on reels in trunks or in plastic or metal cans in boxes - but the mainstream releases (that is, anything handled by Deluxe Media Logistics) are unprotected cores thrown into boxes. Occasionally we get a print from a foreign lab that has been issued with and has kept its cans - such was the case with the print we got of THE KING'S SPEECH that came from Deluxe London - but that is the exception. You can imagine my horror when an IB print of APOCALYPSE NOW REDUX turned up on unprotected cores in lovely new boxes - just begging to get flattened or soaked or any number of other horrors that can befall a priceless and irreplaceable print.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-03-2012 09:41 AM                     In the USA, release prints from the major studios and most independents have always arrived on reels. They come from the lab on cores, and are transferred to reels at the depot. Years ago, they actually wound the film onto real reels, either metal or plastic. For the last 20 years or so, they have been snapping on cheap plastic side flanges to the core, eliminating the need to wind the film. Because of this, many if not most theatres here do not have split reels, they have never needed them.  |  IP: Logged Fred L West Film Handler Posts: 24 From: Concrete, Wa USA Registered: Jan 2011 posted 03-03-2012 11:01 AM                     One thing nice about the print being wrapped is how clean it is, I don't get many new prints. Being second run house I mostly get prints that have been beaten to death and have masking tape everywhere which I won't miss once digital. I received a new print at the break a few months ago with pad lock on one of the cans that I could not get the combo to until late afternoon thursday once opened it was covered with cardboard dust from those beat up cans. The studio's taking about how they care about presentation is a joke with the junk they send us. I'm sure you all have great story's about prints that have arrived. Little off subject but I just got a print of War Horse with at least 5 splices on each reel that I could count just from looking at the reef from the side, one has at least 7 splices besides it was totally beat. Needless to say another one was sent for midnight arrival. Fred Fred  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-03-2012 04:07 PM                     I used to keep a box of small can liners in my booth and would individually wrap each reel of film as it was broken down. This way those dirty cans didn't get crap all over the edges of the print.  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-04-2012 06:49 AM                     We keep a small canister vacuum cleaner with hose and dust brush attachment handy. Each reel is removed and vacuumed before it is handled any more. After the case is emptied, that gets a thorough cleaning as well. These new fangled plastic boxes get the same treatment as the dirt seems not to discriminate where it goes.  |  IP: Logged Ross Oba Expert Film Handler Posts: 181 From: Kailua Kona, HI Registered: Oct 2005 posted 03-04-2012 03:03 PM                     Whenever we get reel replacements, they come shrink wrapped. I have never seen a brand new print with the same.  |  IP: Logged David Buckley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 525 From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2004 posted 03-04-2012 07:58 PM                        When films arrive on cores here, they are not shrink-wrapped, but enclosed in a loose fitting plastic bag. These then get stacked into a box with a piece of cardboard between the reels, with boxes sized from two to about six reels. Most first run cinemas in New Zealand seem to assume that when they de-platter the last big hit, then the film goes to some great big graveyard in the sky, but the film on it's core is more often than not put back neatly in its bag, albeit with a bit of masking tape holding the film to the core (bad!) and the cardboard seperators between the reels. Removal of automation splotches is the exception rather than the rule, and tails in or out is always a crap shoot. However, sometimes these movies end up at our house, which truly is (or was) the last run cinema on the planet. We show the film once on changeovers, and then rebag and rebox. And what happens to the movies then? Once, we had a cry room, but now it is that graveyard of old prints that the 'plex projectionists can only dream about... To be fair, this was a while ago, (LOTR 2003 complete with fake name in bottom right corner), and the distributors are now wanting their movies back, but this lot probably went to landfill rather than back to the Vault. The reel in the bottom left corner; I that is a relic of the old projectors that were installed in 1931 and replaced in the mid 1990s, and I believe that it has an incompatible centre compared to "modern" reels.  |  IP: Logged Jock Blakley Expert Film Handler Posts: 218 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registered: Oct 2011 posted 03-04-2012 08:55 PM                     Ooh, look at all the Atlab boxes! Subsumed now by the Deluxe empire. Loose plastic bags is more than we ever get except for in one or two prints every few months. This one of my favourite examples: On the right is the 7-spool box containing INCENDIES, and on the left is what would be junked print if it wasn't for the plastic cans provided by the German lab.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 03-05-2012 12:30 AM                     The only times I ever received films on cores instead of reels was whenever we played a Bollywood movie.  |  IP: Logged Graham Ritchie Film Handler Posts: 54 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Registered: Apr 2009 posted 03-05-2012 02:25 AM                     This photo taken a while ago is of a new print from Fox. The reason I took the photos in the first place was the title on the box "Darwins Revenge" it made me I prefer films arriving this way, some might be tail out, others head out, either way it doesn't bother me, thats what my job "was"... "projectionist"....to sort it out Graham.  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 03-05-2012 01:21 PM                     It's fine when new but after that booth monkeys and such will destroy it quickly compared to reels and film cans.  |  IP: Logged Graham Ritchie Film Handler Posts: 54 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Registered: Apr 2009 posted 03-05-2012 02:52 PM                     Over the years I have never come across a problem with films damaged as a result being in cores coming from other cinemas in NZ or from Aussie. The film handing and care of prints I have found in general "down under" is pretty good. Graham.  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 03-05-2012 03:03 PM                     Yeah you may have a point for down there and England since everyone is used to that but in North America it will get dropped,tangled and mangled in no time due to lack of split reels or booth monkeys.  |  IP: Logged

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