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Author Topic: 75th Anniversary for Polarized 3-D Steve Moore Expert Film Handler Posts: 211 From: Leeds, West Yorks, UK Registered: Apr 2008 posted 05-30-2014 11:19 AM                     I will looks those up too Claude, thank you. Just been looking at some of your photographs too online; very nice indeed. On a side note, I must return to Hawaii, that was an amazing holiday, the same year I saw Michael Jackson we flew onto Hawaii for a week.  |  IP: Logged Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-31-2014 12:43 PM                        quote: Steve Moore The next closest experience was an IMAX in Canada (possibly vancouver) a couple of years later, where they were pouring metal in a foundry. I think this is THE LAST BUFFALO (1990).  |  IP: Logged Steve Moore Expert Film Handler Posts: 211 From: Leeds, West Yorks, UK Registered: Apr 2008 posted 05-31-2014 12:44 PM                     yes that was the one! Thanks  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-31-2014 02:50 PM                        THE LAST BUFFALO is one of the most impressive 3D titles I have ever seen, right up there with the best of those that Claude has named -- AVATAR, HUGO, HOUSE OF WAX, etc. It is a true cinematic experience -- the 3D is truly stunning and the content and concept are beautiful executed with not a word of dialogue, reminiscent of the beginning and ending sequences in 2001:ASO and many silent films -- completely visual and cinematic. It brilliantly juxtaposes and contrasts the beauty of the natural world against the beauty of the art created by man and technology. Bob, any chance SOMEONE will do a Quality 3D Conversion (as Claude has aptly named it) of WORLD OF TOMORROW, just for the sake of the Anniversary? Nowadays when 3D conversions have gotten so good -- when done well, every bit as good as live capture, they could certainly do justice to that title. Given that most films genres which lend themselves to 3D, like GODAWFULZILLA, there's practically nothing there to capture as 75% of everything you see is rendered in the computer in the first place. You would just be dual-capturing live actors and a green screen. As bad as G is, the 3D was visually very effective in IMAX. IMAX is the way I try to watch all 3D titles I'm interested in if they are done in IMAX; any title released only in REALD 3D, I rather wait for the BR 3D so I can see them on my own BRIGHT home system). As for today's 3D as in IMAX, 75 Years later and dual projection 3D is STILL the right way to do it; I am itching to see IMAX 3D when they get the laser light source. BTW, films about underwater and outer space, ala CREATURE and GRAVITY and JAWS 3, always seem to look great in 3D because in so many scenes you can have negative parallax with all that stuff floating out past the image frame while not breaking the screen edge; touching the screen edge collapses the 3D reality. Your mind says, "Hey stupid, that thing can't be 10 feet in front of the screen because it's touching the edge of the screen," thus breaking the illusion. Floating things can easily and naturally be composed not to touch the screen parimeter. And please, as impressive as that JAWS 3 clip is, it's ANAGLYPHIC and should certainly never be called "...actual true 3D..." That sad, erronious myth never seems to go away no matter how many times it's debunked -- red/green analog way of creating left/right eye separation was NEVER the prime way ANY of the main 3D outings were exhibited. All those (many, MANY) artists and marketing dept publicity pictures out there showing an audience all wearing red/green colored glasses are dead wrong; it never happened...except for CREATURE and ICFOS decades after their initial polaroid release when Universal decided to bastardized those titles to make a little extra money. But aside from those totally isolated gimmicky instances, anaglyphic was NEVER used for mainstream 3D exhibition. Comic books, yes; cinema, no. Oh, if only we could wipe these stupid images from the collective mind.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-31-2014 02:53 PM                        Steve, I just watched PROMETIOUS last night in 3-D at home on Blu Ray and for some reason I thought the 3-D was better than when I saw it Digital IMAX 3-D at the Dolle Cannery here in Honolulu when it was first released. I liked it when I first saw it but enjoyed it more last night and this might be due to the 3-D looking better than in the theatre. Thank you for the complements about my photographs. Next year will mark the 50th anniversary of the establishment of my studio and my photographic career. I was in your country a few years ago in 2008 when I was invited to share my knowledge on environmental portrait photography at the Society of Wedding & Portrait Photographers (SWPP) convention in London and had a great time.. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-31-2014 04:46 PM                        Frank, I saw JAWS 3 at the twined Kuhio in the Over/under 3-D process and was not very impressed with it. Not enough depth and picture too dark. If Universal released it in 3-D on Blu Ray using the current 3-D technology, it might look better but not by much. I bought a remake of. NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (2006) that was produced and directed by Jeff Broadstreet on DVD in anaglyph 3-D and the results was interesting. It was pretty good 3-D but the eyes become tired after a short period of time and I never finished watching the entire movie in the format and watched the rest of the film in 2-D and in color. Although JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH is now available in splendid 3-D on Blu Ray, it was first released in anaglyph before the introduction of true 3-D on home video and the result was a mix bag. I never saw the anaglyph version of the two classic Universal movies you mentioned on film but I think CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON was available on VHS tape in anaglyph at one time. I saw HONDO in anaglyph on standard TV once and it was horrid. I sure would love to get my hands on a regular 3-D Blu Ray of that movie and it was unfortunate Paramount decided to release it in 2-D only a few years ago. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Robert Furmanek Expert Film Handler Posts: 113 From: Clifton, NJ, USA Registered: Jun 2012 posted 06-02-2014 11:38 AM                     Believe it or not, some people are still claiming to have seen JAWS 3-D in anaglyph when it was first released theatrically. When I ask for documented evidence, they come up with anaglyph glasses from the Jaws trading card set! Frank: I would love to have 3-D recreations done on both the Yosemite short from 1922 and IN TUNE WITH TOMORROW from 1939: two very historic 3-D shorts that only survive flat. The problem is the cost and who would pay for it? I'm afraid that's WAY out of our budget. Here's some info on the Yosemite film: http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/home/holygrail  |  IP: Logged Steve Moore Expert Film Handler Posts: 211 From: Leeds, West Yorks, UK Registered: Apr 2008 posted 06-02-2014 01:04 PM                     Thanks for that suggestion too Claude, just trying to locate a copy of that too, and been looking up images of that theatre in Honolulu too; looks nice.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 06-02-2014 01:12 PM                     If you can find this issue online it's a great 'read'. (This one is from my collection - July 1983) Also, if you're really interested in the 3D topic, SMPTE has a really comprehensive book titled "3D Cinema & Television Technology" which is a complilation of all their papers on these topics from 1916-2012. It's a big book; almost 600pgs. When I got my copy last year, it cost me $89.00us. Last time I looked the price had dropped to $45.00, and there were even some used copies on Amazon.  |  IP: Logged Lionel Fouillen Expert Film Handler Posts: 230 From: Belgium Registered: Nov 2002 posted 06-30-2014 07:56 AM                     @Frank Angel As you pointed out, polarization is used for 3D at the movies, not anaglyphs. However there is one IMAX 15/70 film which used anaglyphs: WE ARE BORN OF STARS. I saw it at the Bradford (UK) museum in 1986. Unfortunately I do not have the glasses anymore. I remember they were much bigger than the model shown on the pictures you posted, with one red glass and the other looking rather greener than blue.  |  IP: Logged Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 06-30-2014 01:50 PM                        nWave also produced some 1570 prints in anaglyph, ColorCode 3-D (yellow/blue). ENCOUNTER IN THE THIRD DIMENSION is an example.  |  IP: Logged Steve Moore Expert Film Handler Posts: 211 From: Leeds, West Yorks, UK Registered: Apr 2008 posted 06-30-2014 02:11 PM                     Claude, I purchased and watch Prometheus at the weekend and the 3D and sound was very good, so thanks for that; however still not Michael Jackson or last buffalo - but very good on my Epson home projector.  |  IP: Logged Dick Vaughan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1032 From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-01-2014 09:45 AM                        quote: Lionel Fouillen As you pointed out, polarization is used for 3D at the movies, not anaglyphs. However there is one IMAX 15/70 film which used anaglyphs: WE ARE BORN OF STARS. I saw it at the Bradford (UK) museum in 1986. Unfortunately I do not have the glasses anymore. I remember they were much bigger than the model shown on the pictures you posted, with one red glass and the other looking rather greener than blue. WE stil have some of the glasses in the basement here in Bradford. Will dig some out when I'm down there later this week.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 07-01-2014 03:11 PM                        Steve, I already mentioned these titles in previous post on this topic but is doing so again to make you aware how good they are. The IMAX titles UNDER THE SEA and THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE are both excellent. Another nice thing about these two Warner Brothers IMAX titles as well as others they have released in IMAX and now on 3-D Blu Ray is the retention of the IIMAX theatrical trailer with the "count down". It looks great in 3-D on my set and also sounds fantastic. Other great discs in 3-D are THE GREAT GATSBY, HOUSE OF WAX and CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON. The "Creature" disc at one time was only available in a box set with other classic Universal horror movies like Frankenstein, Dracula and the Mummy but CFTBL is now available in a stand alone set. -Claude  |  IP: Logged

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