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Paul H. Rayton
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The film prints of Ken Russell's movie "Tommy" (1975) had at least two changeovers in the course of the film that required precision in timing at the c/o, to get the outgoing chords of the ending music and the precise initial instants of the incoming reel. Careful threading was imperative, and God forbid your finger slipping on the button when the motor start cue appeared! I ran it during the early commercial runs of that show at the Bruin in west L.A., and had to pay super-close attention to several changes each show.

All that is solved in the DCP version that now circulates!

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Stephan Shelley
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Ran an Emerson, Lake and Palmer music film many years ago. It was a video transfer and no thought about where the changovers were. Most were right in the middle of a music number. If you did it right you did not loose a beat,

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John Eickhof
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Through the years I have seen and operated in a couple booths that had no electric changeovers! One had a slim plywood sheet mounted on and across the projection ports! It had rectangular cutouts and was mounted in slides with a handle in the middle and right end for it to be slid back and forth opening one port or the other! You had to be quick and it made an interesting dissolve in the picture! The other was actually all metal and was branded by weaver!

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Jerry Axelsson
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Once upon a time when we we ran "THE LAST BOY SCOUT"-1991, the projectionist which unpacked the print was in a hurry due to a very late arrival of the print.
At the end of reel 5, the change-over cue is just before a bad guy falls into the rotor-blades of a helicopter.
As it turned out, the Swedish censors had cut out this splatter scene between the start cue and the change-over cue which ruined the function of the original cue marks...

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Manny Knowles
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It's been a while, but I think the first c/o in JURASSIC PARK happens in the middle of a musical cue.

Also, IIRC the first c/o in JAWS has a line of dialogue right up to the last frame of the outgoing reel.

The c/o in CRY OF JAZZ also occurs in the middle of a music cue.

There's a reel in SPHERE that begins or ends with exactly one frame of computer monitor static.

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