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Monte L Fullmer
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Good looking and well kept Enarcs - using 8's and 9's

What is in front of that Peerless just off to the right in the picture?

Good luck - Monte

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John Eickhof
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All the Edison models had square magazines. Charles, I haven't been in your theatre in decades! I forgot about all the risers on your pedistals!! I will look around at what reflectors I have left and what parts do you need for the Enarcs? I have several parts lamphouses and some new parts on hand. John

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Charles A. Petty
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quote:
Good looking and well kept Enarcs - using 8's and 9's

What is in front of that Peerless just off to the right in the picture?

Good luck - Monte
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The Peerless Magnarc is out of the 1914 Minor Theater in Arcata, CA and in front of the Peerless is one of the original E-7s and SH-1000 soundheads from the 1938 Arcata Theater where it ran pretty much every day from 1938 until 2002.
quote: John Eickhof
Charles, I haven't been in your theatre in decades! I forgot about all the risers on your pedistals!! I will look around at what reflectors I have left and what parts do you need for the Enarcs? I have several parts lamphouses and some new parts on hand. John
John,
I guess they installed the projection ports a little too high. Those pedestals have been in place since March, 1939. Our Enarcs are in pretty good working condition, but the reflectors are getting pitted. I think the reflectors are the drive-in reflectors especially since they came out of the Willow Creek Drive-In. I would interested in any Enarc parts that typically wear or break. The positive carbon rest in one of our Enarcs is not original, but a fairly well made home made replacement. Here are two photos of the Eureka Theater's booth from 1939.  -
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Monte L Fullmer
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These prob have been posted before..

SuperSimplex sitting on top of W.E. 206 Sound heads

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Will Kutler
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Monte

That Super set-up belongs to Tom Wilson. He has photos of it all over the internet. Tom alluded to this projector being un-restored. I would love to find 1 or 2 of those Simplex pedestals!

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Donald Brown
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Charles:
In the early 2000s, I rebuilt a pair of Peerless Magnarcs for a drive-in. I still have many old new stock Peerless replacement parts for the Magnarcs, including one pair of new old stock reflectors and one pair of Ultraflat resurfaced metal reflectors.
If you need any particular pieces, let me know; these old parts need a new home!
Don Brown
doncbrownjr@verizon.net

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Will Kutler
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Don

Please contact me! The phone number I have for you is not valid.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Booth I ran in 1971-1972. Royal Theatre, Rigby, Idaho.

Simplex E7
W.E.206 Sound heads
STRONG Mogul
Motiograph sound (location did have Motiograph Mag sound but the cheap owner yanked it out-too complicated for him.)

Booth wall used to end at the edge of the concrete, but the owner knocked that wall out to make the adjoining room like a screening room - complete with theatre chair, large viewing window and speaker, I mounted, above the window.

Place burnt down in 1980 from a coal furnace explosion. auditorium floor was wood along with the stage. In 1973, the above equipment were switched out for xenon, PR35's, early 5 star sound heads and 6K reel cue changeovers.

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Will Kutler
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Don Brown

Please contact me in regards to Magnarc parts. The phone number I had for you seems to be no longer valid, along with your e-mail address on your F.T. profile. I did send you a p.m. and and an e-mail @ doncbrownjr@verizon.net, but have not heard back. I have some Magnarcs that I am completely restoring and am in need of some parts, as well as finding out what you still have left.

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: Monte L Fullmer was the last to post
W.E.206 Sound heads
Monte- Great pictures. Reminds me of some of some of the booths I used
to work at back in the early 70's. I encountered several original ERPI
installations back then still using the W.E. amps and speaker systems,
but never any of the W.E soundheads, which in most cases had been
replaced by IPC or RCA soundheads.

One question: Didn't the WE-206's pre-date the invention of the rotary
stabilizer and sound 'drum'? (Which, RCA once claimed, "Was the greatest
advancement in sound since the invention of the ear")

Were those 206's still the original 'sound gate' type?

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Monte L Fullmer
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Hi Jim ..

If you look at the publicity picture of the two Supers with the W.E.'s, then look carefully behind the picts that I posted, one can see that same flywheel behind the soundhead.

True, these predicate the current scanner drum setup with the sound gate.

This setup did function quite well with no problems.

I kept an eye on the twin round fibre belt condition and tension, which in itself was a trick with skewing the motor just right so the two belts were pulling at the exact tension together.

If the pulldown sprocket was new, or reversed to expose the good side of the tooth, the wow and flutter were held in check at a good rate - so explained to me by the service tech that would take care of these units on a contract basis...and how I began in the interest in projection technician field is with this setup since the mgr didn't have the foggiest on how to operate this booth in a professional manner.

there were two sprockets in the head - the upper one was the pulldown sprocket, and below it was the holdback sprocket, so a loop can be formed between the two sprockets-like a 4Star (or RCA) setup.

The pulldown sprocket was attached to the shaft that the flywheel was mounted on the other side.

Unit had a monster four pin, bulb photocell in the can behind the threading area.

With having this belt driven setup, these projectors ran superbly quiet along with very smooth ramp up to film speed.

With this slow ramp up speed, I had to frame down between "5" and "6", instead of the usual "8" in the lighted aperture plate area to make clean changeovers.

-Monte

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John Eickhof
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Yes Jim, the WE 1A, 206 & 208 as well as the early RCA PS 2-22 soundheads had sound gates and were considered 'low fidelity'. The WE-211 was a sprocketless sound attachment that had a spring clutch equipped flywheel for better stability, it used the lower feed sprocket of the projector head to pull the film through it. The invention of the 'rotary stabilizer' in Europe by Tri-Ergon was the turning point where the flywheel action coupled with finer optics of the slit lens resulted in the 'high fidelity' systems. RCA had the PS-24 and then the MI-1040/1050 and then the MI-9001, and finally the MI-9030/9050 series. IPC used the Tri-Ergon style stabilzer also. WE built Century's R-2 and R-6 soundheads but had to use a magnetically coupled stabilizer as they would not pay the license fees to Tri-Ergon for the RCA style stabilizer. (It is still thought by many that there was no finer soundhead ever made in relation to wow and flutter than the R-2 / R-6) Ironically, the WE Designed Motiograph SH-2500 had the liquid filled Tri-Ergon stabilizer! Unfortunately, due to design, the flywheel was not hermetically sealed like RCA & IPC and the damping fluid was known to dry out in the Motios and severe wow would result! (Have seen many of them!)That is why Century used a solid flywheel with dampening rollers in all their subsequent designs. NTS did the same with the modern 5 Star Simplex soundheads. The cost of manufacture was greatly reduced not having to build the liquid filled stabilizer. Like Monte, I used to have to rack up on #3 on the leader when I ran WE 1A Universal Soundheads, even with a Regular or Super on them they would just be up to speed by changeover!

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Jerry D. Cox
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The Lamp House is A Strong Utility.I use to run one back in the
50ths They put a lot of them in back in the 40ths we had Brenkard
BX-80 and RCA sound,They took them out when 3D came in and put in
Enarc.for more lite

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Richard Fowler
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The Deutsches Science Museum in Munich they have a large display of the early late 1920's projectors using the Klangfilm / Tri-Ergon patents. The original rotary sound drum had sprocket teeth for traction.

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Karl Brenkert
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Hi Steve,

Thought you might enjoy a picture of the Brenkert model A from an ad in 1931. I think '31 was the first year they were manufactured. The logo on the lamp house seems to match the logo from the ad but it's hard to tell.

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