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Ted Uzzle
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From: Chicago, Il., U.S.A.
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Paul Dorobialski, we are almost identical twins. Take courage, my friend. My first projection job was in 1965, projecting "Cleopatra" at the Midway Drive-In Theatre, midway between Jacksonville, Florida, and Jacksonville Beach. Two totally crappy towns, useful only for making money. Our rectifier had fleur-de-lis tubes. To activate the rectifiers, we had to freeze the carbons together, rotate the tubes, and slosh the mercury back and forth. Then, run back to pull the carbons apart, and make the changeover. That was (crude) projection in the 1960's.
Paul, my friend, the world is different now, but will still make a place at the table for you.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Broadcast engineer comes to mind as well. Low pay, too many stations, and carry out the trash. (Did that one as well.)

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Paul Dorobialski
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Radio? I had a "underground" AM transmitter in early 1976 playing big band 78's. Then one day, while doing a modulation test I burned a hole thru the insulating mica of the tuning capacitor. That shut me down for good because no spec was printed on the drawing for the small transmitter, and I didn't know ham radio operators to get help from, so I was 'off the air' for good. I did do some DJ work back in 1970 but that was at a community center. They had a Newcomb system with turntables.

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Mike Blakesley
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I was on the radio for about a half hour in the '80s. I had a friend who worked at the local station, who did the evening shift. I stopped by to see him one time, we had a few drinks, and then he said "Want to be on the air?" I had always thought that would be fun, but was really nervous. He said, "Just keep in mind, there are thousands of people with their radios on, but hardly anybody is really listening." So I did the weather report, played a couple of records and that was it. I think I could have gotten pretty good at it. If it hadn't been a country station (and I hate country), I might've tried to get a job there.

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Manny Montes
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I'd tell them to get into electrical engineering.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Just I.T.... EXCUSE ME! Light, sound, optics, computers, automation, amplifiers, speakers, Baffle Walls, Acoustical treatment, air handlers, exhaust blowers... And then you better also be able to work with metal and wood on occasion and have an intimate knowledge of all types of wiring.

Just an IT expert never makes the grade working ON booths. You have to know all the other meat too. And that's the main place where large service companies Like Strong Technical fall apart. They hire IT guys with the "we can train em" attitude. Well, that never really quite happens because these "IT gurus" spend 88% of their time driving around a two or three State area putting out small fires and never get to learn the meat of all the above subjects.

Mark

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Scott Norwood
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There could not possibly be a worse time to get into this business.

I cannot speak for other markets but, at least here, there are more experienced, competent operators than there are jobs. Anyone looking for one of these jobs would be competing with people who are better qualified. Additionally, the projectionist's job has changed significantly over the last few years. It has never required more knowledge and skill than it does now, yet it gets no more pay or respect than it did a decade or so ago. The fact that it now requires knowledge of IT and networking and many different video formats, as well as all film formats does not seem to matter.

In some ways, all of this makes the job more interesting, but the day-to-day aspects of the job are rather mundane. If D-cinema equipment fails, it is generally not fixable without a service call. Film equipment can often be fixed (at least temporarily) with paper clips, rubber bands, and epoxy, but D-cinema equipment is less forgiving. Actual film screenings are more of a special event, and the day-to-day job in many cinemas largely consists of watching movies start themselves. "Film" festivals now largely consist of checking and fixing badly made DCPs, playing tapes, and possibly a token screening of actual film. And film screenings themselves increasingly involve archival prints in various formats (16mm, 35mm, and 70mm).

Anyone with the necessary mechanical, electrical, and IT skills to be a projectionist in 2016 could almost certainly find a more stable and remunerative career in some other industry.

Otherwise, what Leo said is pretty much spot-on.

That said, I would encourage anyone with an interest in and aptitude for the job to learn the needed skills (if the opportunity presents itself), but to do so with the understanding that it will not likely translate into a financially and emotionally rewarding job.

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Manny Knowles
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I couldn't advise a young person to pursue a career in the "film" side of things. If they were interested in the digital technology, then they'd have to understand that there aren't "projectionist" jobs anymore -- not the way they are probably imagining it.

So -- do they want to SHOW movies? Or do they want to play around with the technology for a living?

If they want to show movies -- run for the hills.

If they are interested in the technology -- especially digital -- then they should learn the entire audiovisual integration business -- including home theatres.

Learn how to plan out a system, how to wire up a rack (including wire termination), how to install, network, configure, and calibrate digital projectors and audio systems.

As others have pointed out, it's become more of an I.T. job now, so they should definitely pursue some training in that regard.

If their eyes start to dim at the sound of all of this -- if they were hoping they'd get to "work with film" -- then this is not the line of work for them.

In which case, run for the hills.

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Mike Babb
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My son is a cinema technician, working some very good gigs. Both my daughters are projectionists occasionally, one has two upcoming gigs in May and June. Not many of these jobs pop up, but some can be very interesting, and/or take you to interesting places.

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Ted Uzzle
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Oh, broadcasting, wow! May I whisper a secret? The radio department at my college has offered a place to every applicant, but how many have accepted for fall 2016? Two. Two. Two entering freshmen for the radio class of 2020.
Last one out please turn off the lights.

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Emiel De Jong
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Leo, I really enjoyed reading points 1 and 2 in your post earlier in this thread... I was a projectionist in an arthouse and this pretty much sums it all up... The frustration of you caring about doing it right while nobody else in the "organisation" is interested. And dealing with being an inferior lifeform as a technician. I got out (or rather, was made to get out) just before Digital and I am not sorry about that. Now, that sounds all gloomy, but actually I am glad I was a projectionist and I remember the good things. And some of those good memories even have to do with the common regard that "technical" never can have anything to do with "art": I had a hilarious fight with a publicity person who couldn't take it from me that her writing about Carl Theodor Dreyer deciding to shoot "Vampyr" on black & white filmstock was silly.

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Rex Oliver
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I am not a projectionist-do find it fascinating-that is why I read about it here.Did the change from analog projection to digital projection reduce the number or call for projeciotnists a we know it?Right now work as a "lead transmitterist" at the last remaining SW transmitter site operated by the Gov't.It broadcasts to Cuba,South America adn Africa.We figure it would be harder to close this last plant down-Greenville,NC.Have to deal with 65,50,and 30 year old transmitters out here with no possiblility of new ones in sight.Local machine shops make up mechanical parts.We have to "apapt" new electrical parts for the transmitters tat are here.two of the transmitters are from Switzerland adn the other from Germany.Parts are expensive adn have to be imported from those places-and delivory times can be months!Just now,had to re4set a Tx that arced over.Lo power for the rest of the night!Only have one guy with me on this mid shift.I have been very interested in operation of cinemas,hope it could be a part time retirement job.It is sort of fascinating-hope it can last.

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Justin Hamaker
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Rex, long before the digital conversion, projectionist was an endangered position at most movie theatres. For different reasons usually tied to cost cutting, many theatres had done away with full time professional projectionists. Most of those theatres were staffed with people who knew how to run the theatres, and perhaps do some basic maintenance tasks. But rarely was there anyone on site who could deal with more complicated issues.

These operators were usually part of the management team, and projection and film handling were just part of their duties, along with normal management duties. They could thread projectors, build up and tear down film, and may handle a bulb change. But they didn't have the know how to make adjustments beyond focus and frame. They couldn't disassemble a gate/trap; change an intermittent; troubleshoot and change diodes; etc. If something really went wrong with the projector, the auditorium was down until a technician could arrive.

With digital projectors, there are no moving parts to deal with. Aside from some issues with lens motors affecting shift/focus/zoom, there is very little that can go wrong from a presentation standpoint. For day to day operations there isn't much more to do than turn the machines on and off, besides occasionally checking to make sure everything is working properly.

If the event something does go wrong, it can usually be diagnosed remotely. The most common issue is a failure of the RAID, which is not unexpected for hard drives. When they fail, a new set gets sent to the theatre where almost anyone can install them. Then a remote tech will rebuild the array.

As far as content goes, it's delivered directly the the theatre's server via satellite in many locations. The movie schedule is usually sent directly from the ticketing system, and all the manager has to do is sit in front of a computer and click a mouse to put together playlists. And this can often be done from a remote location by logging into a booth computer.

In a digital cinema, there is no need for an on-site projectionist. Once the initial install and configuration is done, there is virtually no maintenance besides changing bulbs and filters. A circuit can have small team of techs who go around performing periodic service at each location, most of which is making sure the software is up to date on the projectors and servers.

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Rex Oliver
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Justin:thanks for the info-like radio stations did away with engineers as transmitters were remote controlled or even automated-automatic start,stop and readings logged.So digital now means no physical handling of films or anything-computer work!I looked up some of the projector websites adn they mention some parts of the projector are NOT "feild" serviceable.They require a visit from the projector builder to install certain parts.The "projectionist" at the site can change bulbs,filters and load or unload programs to show from the projector.At the place I am at now--we have to do it all.When the Tx goes down we have to do whatever it takes to get it back on air-and in the maentime tune up an alternative transmitter to use while the broken one is fixed.Mostly variable vacuum capacitor failures-then tubes or mechanical parts.Since these rigs run from 4160V 3 Ph power-have to disconnect the pirmary power adn discharge and ground all power supplies.One guy has been killed here and a close call.On my shift we follow ALL safety measures-we want to go home in one peice after our shift!As you know projectors have their dangers-xenon bulbs that can explode even when unlit adn primary power that can be dangerous.Some smaller commercial transmitters I worked on ran from 208-240V 3 Ph or 480V 3Ph.So careful there,too.So if you want to do digital cinema-looks like you have to bone up on IT and computer skills.Do films still come in the DCP packs adn still use the KDM to "unlock" the film so you can play it after you ingest it into the servers?So,films are delivored by satellite now?Do you still need the KDM?

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Dave Macaulay
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All feature movies need a KDM to be shown. The security model absolutely requires this.
The delivery and loading of KDMs can be automated, so far only large chains have started using the systems that do that. They have the most to gain - after eliminating projection staff, they need to eliminate any slightly skilled regular tasks. Anything complicated is done by off site specialists, preferably remotely.
Large chains and remote sites commonly use satellite content delivery. The economics aren't so appealing to smaller cinemas near the distribution points: around Toronto, for example, satellite delivery is unusual because drive shipping is so cheap from The Toronto distributor hubs.
The whole presentation management process is evolving. Right now you can have a multiplex with essentially no "projectionist" job. Content and KDMs are fed to the TMS automatically, old content is deleted automatically, scheduling is pulled from the POS system and content/KDMs pushed to screen servers automatically in time for scheduled shows and deleted when the KDM expires. Preshow content is delivered via internet, and the preshow system assembles ads, filler, and teasers appropriate to the main show rating and plays it automatically. All projection systems are automated, with fault alarms emailed to a NOC for attention. Someone has to change lamps... I predict that laser light sources will become common just to eliminate that last "skilled" task. Filters will require service but that's becoming less onerous.
There are sound check systems that run a series of reference sounds with a microphone in the auditorium, either adjusting the processing to correct changes or emailing the NOC about problems. I think IMAX was the first to do this but it's available for many modern cinema processors.
QC cameras can assess the image quality for focus, brightness, and color and call for help or try to correct it. Again, IMAX was first but systems are available that do most of this for typical cinemas.
So the idea of planning for a career as a projectionist is not so good.
There will still be technicians needed... and many of us are at or nearing nearing retirement age so openings will be available.
It's a job with drawbacks as you would expect - we still work to a show biz "the show must go on!" ethos meaning night work and unpredictable scheduling is unavoidable. Someone is always "On Call" - and when it's you, you don't make any plans that can't be canceled on little/no notice. Travel is essential so family time suffers... our divorce rates are way above average.
Our successes are not very public. Like a goalie, we get attention only for failures.
It's still satisfying in many ways though, not all bleak!

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