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Scott Norwood
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Film Guard doesn't really apply to most repertory screenings, anyway, since they are usually one-offs. The real benefit to it is for long-term engagements, not single screenings.

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Kenneth Wuepper
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The old remedy for "green prints" was to have a little block of canning wax available to apply to the film edges outside the sprocket holes. This paraffin stopped the gate chatter and was acceptable to the exchange.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Ken,

I don't think they have made canning wax since 1892.

Mark

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Martin McCaffery
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Au Contraire, Mark
Gulf Wax

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Gordon McLeod
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camphor was was very popular for years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camphor

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Leo Enticknap
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Edge waxing acetate (and maybe nitrate when it was in use - don't know) prints was very common. It was done by at least one major archive, too - British Film Institute archive prints in the 1980s and '90s would often arrived with large red WAXED stickers on the cans. The smell of a waxed reel was distinctive when you opened the can, and in retrospect I wonder if those vapors weren't helping when it came to acetate decomposition.

I've never (that I can remember) come across a waxed polyester print, though. I'm guessing that the thinner stock means that the friction issue that can be addressed by edge waxing acetate doesn't exist, and therefore that waxing a polyester print wouldn't achieve anything.

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Gordon McLeod
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deluxe canada edge waxed all prints until they closed the facility

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Kenneth Wuepper
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Thanks Gordon,

I knew that the practice was still being done.
KEN

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Leo Enticknap
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Maybe not, because Deluxe Canada has now closed.

None of the prints I've seen coming out of FotoKem recently have been edge waxed.

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Manny Knowles
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Scott, take a look at Steve Guttag's bench setup for Film-Guard. Photos are part-way down the page.

There have been a few occasions where I got permission to clean up a filthy repertory (or "sub-run") print*, and Steve's method is, in my opinion, the best way to do it, because it affords the ability to do multiple passes in less-than-real-time. Perfect for a "one off" screening.

*I do make a distinction between "repertory" and "archival" prints.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Some Kelmar tables did have the threaded hole made to attach these Kelmar brackets as with what Steve had set up for bench cleaning.

I'd did the same with 16mm films on a Kelmar table since the rollers on the bracket had the inner grooving set for the 16mm width.

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