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Monte L Fullmer
Film God

Posts: 8367
From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004

posted 09-09-2016 04:28 PM

Like to see him explain how to work a carbon arc changeover house.

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Jim Henk
Master Film Handler

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From: San Diego, CA
Registered: Feb 2006

posted 09-09-2016 05:42 PM

Really, I was only ever trained just as an operator (changeover, then platters, etc) but OMG, I watched just part one, and found myself repeatedly lurching forward toward the screen to catch film before it hit the floor, and my heart skipped for a moment when I saw the reel on core in sudden danger of being dropped. I suppose that's one way to get your heart started in the morning.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 09-09-2016 07:30 PM

I'm a little surprised nobody noticed in his explanation of the 35/70 pad rollers that he has the mag penthouse's pad roller engaged to the 35mm position...meaning the film is dragging directly across the 70mm pad roller.

Of course with all of the other bad advice and improper threading, I don't suppose it makes much difference.

This does however disprove the theory that reel to reel projection, even with a long-time projectionist RIGHT THERE, is somehow safe for an "archive" print to be sent to.

This is why the few 70mm prints left in circulation are starting to look pretty worn...defeating the purpose.

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

Posts: 4247
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 09-09-2016 08:01 PM

The first video is open for comments, but I don't see any. Why is that?

I'm going to have to inch my way through these. It's too hard to watch in one sitting. Besides, I've got my own damn film to inspect tonight.

quote: Monte L Fullmer
Like to see him explain how to work a carbon arc changeover house.

Now you're just showing off, Monte.

The poor boy is already at a loss when it comes to the equipment he's supposedly got some experience with. I think it's unfair to expect him to know anything about long-dead technology.

And, to be perfectly frank: I wouldn't be able to explain how to use carbon arc equipment. Yes, I'm somewhat curious, but I don't truly need to know how how to use any of that stuff.

Nobody does.

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Jim Cassedy
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1661
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Dec 2006

posted 09-09-2016 08:46 PM

quote: Frank Bolkovac
I could never understand that if the film company was so concerned about their prints that they would send some of them on "cores".

I never had a problem with getting films on cores, and actually preferred them.
What I could never understand was why, after spending millions of dollars
on production, distributors would send the prints out on the damn cheapest
flimsy plastic reels that probably cost them less than 50cents each, in quantity.

quote: Leo Enticknap
Large reels on 2" cores (like the one shown in the video) are also bad news, because the inner 200-300 feet can deform

Never liked 2" cores, for a variety of reasons.
I once acquired a couple of Cinecolor (dual emulsion) prints that had been
stored for many years on 2"cores. It was impossible to keep the last 150ft
or so in focus because the inner emulsion had a slightly different "curvature"
than the outer one. It took several years of storing the print 'reverse wrapped'
(also on 2" cores) to fix the problem.

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

Posts: 12767
From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-09-2016 10:30 PM

Kind of fun seeing this discussion about film. It brings back a lot of memories but also reminds me of a lot of the things I don't miss about film (bent/broken reels, jammed cases, etc.)

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Justin Hamaker
Film God

Posts: 2253
From: Lakeport, CA USA
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 09-09-2016 10:36 PM

Out of curiosity, what is the preferred method to fix "sprocket run" - where the perforations are torn? I would always just apply splices for the length of film where this was present.

One of things I cringed about in the first part is he talks a great deal about "gunking" up the projector, yet he is just throwing the "chads" from the splices where ever.

I don't have a complaint about the "projection" value. I think it's perfectly fine for in house training videos.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 09-10-2016 01:06 AM

quote: Dwayne Caldwell
You just know this guy loves pulling that knob an inch at a time.

Like I explain to the ladies, an inch is all you need, really. I mean... anything more, really, it's just excess you don't need or want it. That is why The Queen invented inches... it's perfect!

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

Posts: 4247
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 09-10-2016 01:14 AM

quote: Justin Hamaker
Out of curiosity, what is the preferred method to fix "sprocket run" - where the perforations are torn? I would always just apply splices for the length of film where this was present.

Well, there is/was a handy-dandy lil device called Perfix. As in "Perf-fix" ...get it? It held a skinny roll of splicing tape, and applied it neatly along the edge, over the sprockets.

I never had one of those.

So, in a situation such as what he shows near the end of part 1, I'd have to resort to the "poor man's Perfix..."

Use a steady hand to apply splicing tape ONLY to the affected region of damaged sprockets. That is, not going all the way across the image. I'd to that on both sides (adhesive to adhesive) and it will reinforce what's left of the sprockets.

God help you if it's more than just a few busted sprockets!

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Buck Wilson
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 894
From: St. Joseph MO, USA
Registered: Sep 2010

posted 09-10-2016 02:03 AM

You never want to be mean to Tish.

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Scott Norwood
Film God

Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-10-2016 06:39 AM

quote: Manny Knowles
And, to be perfectly frank: I wouldn't be able to explain how to use carbon arc equipment. Yes, I'm somewhat curious, but I don't truly need to know how how to use any of that stuff.

It's really not hard. You be able to learn all that you need to know in about fifteen minutes.

The guy in the videos, on the other hand....

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Martin McCaffery
Film God

Posts: 2481
From: Montgomery, AL
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-10-2016 09:44 AM

I cheated and jumped to number 7 where he casually mentions he doesn't work there anymore.
Wonder why? [evil]

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Kenneth Wuepper
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1026
From: Saginaw, MI, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 09-10-2016 10:39 AM

Regarding Perf-Fix: we had reel #8 of "The Crimson Ghost" serial that had almost the entire reel with unplayable damaged sprocket holes. It took several weeks and many reels of the Estar pre-perforated tape in the little registration machine to fix it. The distributor was so sure we couldn't play it that we were supplied a 16MM reel for that episode.

The repair was a complete success and, since the tape was applied only on the base side of the film, the company was able to make a duplicate from that print.

We still have the little machine and it works for both 35MM and 16MM.

"You Tube" is not necessarily about the subject matter but more about the presenter. It could have been named "Me Tube" just as well. Star in your own world wide release of yourself!

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 09-10-2016 11:09 AM

Martin, likely the guy took another higher paying job. It would appear that theater had no budget to setup and fix things in their booth properly in the first place, indicating they were probably paying minimum wage or close to it.

My theory is he agreed to let this girl shoot a video of him training so everyone there could watch it and continue the tradition of "archival projection" at that venue.

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Tyler Purcell
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 180
From: Van Nuys, CA
Registered: Dec 2015

posted 09-10-2016 11:12 AM

This is far better training in my eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO6mEZwB28

LOL [Big Grin]

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