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Monte L Fullmer
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Carsten Kurz
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Can we even be sure that every Dolby Cinema installation uses the beefed-up cascaded high contrast light engines (yet)?

Even if - Dolby Cinema enables the projection system to utilize very high contrast and color saturation - but if that is not what the director/DOP wants, Dolby mastering can not simply mess with the mastering process to make blacks blacker or whites whiter. After all, Rogue One was shot and produced to imitate the style of the very first Star Wars movie (and did so well in my opinion). Dolby Cinema mastering should not jeopardize that intention.

Actually I'm glad about these reports, as it seems Dolby is not overdoing it on the Dolby Cinema releases just to show off the capabilities of their technology. I don't want every movie in Dolby Cinemas to look like 'Inside Out'.

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Bill Brandenstein
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quote: Carsten Kurz
After all, Rogue One was shot and produced to imitate the style of the very first Star Wars movie (and did so well in my opinion).
"Rogue" in Imax 70mm is an exceptionally dark movie until the final quarter. The homage shown to Episode 4 struck me as fitting and enjoyable, no disagreement there. But back in '77 I don't remember ever wondering when they were going to finally open an aperture and throw some light on the screen.

So "low contrast" IS an issue in the sense that many early sequences have a light-value range that stays quite low, and some of them are strikingly grainy or fuzzy as well (this varies). The dimmest moments are so exceedingly dark that I presume that no visible image could be seen along the film unless illuminated by a very bright light source (compliments to Kodak).

It's as though the producers planned a sort of visual crescendo to give the final battle sequence and associated white-out moments greater visual impact. And it IS visually stunning. I just wish some of the beginning scenes didn't look so inferior.

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