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Mark Lensenmayer
Phenomenal Film Handler

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 - posted 11-14-2017 05:30 PM      Profile for Mark Lensenmayer   Email Mark Lensenmayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gateway Film Center in Columbus, OH will be playing Justice League in 70mm.

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David J Hilsgen
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This will be odd, the trailers will be 2.20:1 the feature 1.85 it should be the other way around, at least i have motorized masking, be interesting to see what the audience thinks at the willow creek. i, do a curtain call, so maybe nobody will notice the picture get smaller.

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Brad Miller
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Smaller than you realize David. The movie is 1.85 within 2.40 within 2.20 (Yes you read that right.)

Here is a scan of the leader to show you what I mean.

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So if this movie is presented using "normal" 2.20 70mm lensing, you will have black on all 4 sides of the image. I predict there will be a lot of customer complaints on this one, as the prints should have been a straight 1.85 within 2.20

For my Dallas area installs I had to setup 3 new lenses and file new aperture plates to properly align this image to the 1.85 masking. They look great, but 70mm presentations will likely vary greatly outside of Texas.

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Steve Guttag
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Well everyone has zoom lenses to handle this. RIGHT? [Eek!]

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Sascha F. Roll
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Is J.L. a 2k resolution film-out on 70mm? Seriously?

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Scott Jentsch
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Here's what we have for U.S. locations advertising that they're showing Justice League in 70mm:

Justice League (4 locations) (70mm is mentioned in the notes)

New York
- New Rochelle: Regal New Roc Stadium 18 IMAX & RPX

Ohio
- Columbus: Gateway Film Center

Oregon
- Tigard: Regal Bridgeport Village Stadium 18 & IMAX

Texas
- Houston: Edwards Greenway Grand Palace Stadium 24 & RPX

Justice League in 70MM Film (13 locations)

California
- Hollywood: ArcLight Hollywood
- La Mesa: Reading Cinemas Grossmont with TITAN XC
- Oakland: Grand Lake Theater
- San Diego: ArcLight La Jolla
- Sherman Oaks: ArcLight Sherman Oaks

Illinois
- Chicago: AMC River East 21

Minnesota
- Plymouth: Emagine Willow Creek

New York
- New York City: AMC Loews Lincoln Square 13
- New York City: City Cinemas Cinemas 1 2 and 3

Texas
- Arlington: Studio Movie Grill - Arlington
- Austin: Alamo Drafthouse Cinema - The Ritz
- Dallas: Studio Movie Grill - Dallas / Royal

Washington
- Seattle: Seattle Cinerama Theatre

This information is current as of this morning's first showtimes refresh. More showtimes may roll in, but if your theater isn't listed here, please make sure that 70mm information is being sent to Webedia (one of the two major suppliers of showtimes info):

http://www.bigscreen.com/extranet/submitschedule.php

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Brad Miller
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You missed LOOK Cinemas, as noted on the previous page.

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Eric Hooper
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Just wondering if Cinemarks with side masking screens leave the side masking open when projecting 1.85 flat pictures? [evil]

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Scott Jentsch
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quote: Brad Miller
You missed LOOK Cinemas, as noted on the previous page.
Hence my comment about the theaters that are advertising that they are showing the movie in 70MM. I probably should have been more specific in saying that these are the theaters that are providing information to us that they are showing the movie in 70MM.

We will do our part by publicizing it, but theaters have to do their part to make sure that they're providing the information. That said, I'm happy to work with our data provider to get that information, and have done so lots of times in the past in such situations.

They've done a pretty decent job of labeling their various presentations (showtimes page), such as Look&Dine, Atmos, EVO, et al, but for whatever reason, their 70MM shows of Justice League are being combined with the digital presentations.

I'll contact Webedia and find out if there is a way to get their showings tagged correctly.

Do you know what POS they're using?

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Peter Lee
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The AMC Neshaminy in Bensalem, PA outside Philadelphia ia showing Justice League in their Dolby Cinema zoomed in and cropped. I thought it was a mistake and they had forgotten to switch out the lens from the earlier shows of scope pic Coco in the same auditorium but nope, it was intentional. The Dolby Cinema screen has scope dimensions and the manager said they got complaints after every show about how the movie wasn't filling the width of the screen. He decided the "solution" is to crop off the top and bottom of the picture. Unbelievable.

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Geoff Jones
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quote: Peter Lee
The AMC Neshaminy in Bensalem, PA outside Philadelphia ia showing Justice League in their Dolby Cinema zoomed in and cropped. I thought it was a mistake and they had forgotten to switch out the lens from the earlier shows of scope pic Coco in the same auditorium but nope, it was intentional. The Dolby Cinema screen has scope dimensions and the manager said they got complaints after every show about how the movie wasn't filling the width of the screen. He decided the "solution" is to crop off the top and bottom of the picture. Unbelievable.
Ugh. And to think that people are paying a surcharge for that.

I hope you demanded your money back.

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Peter Lee
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I did but it provided no satisfaction. I'd run into previous problems with the Dolby Cinema at this theatre - in fact, the ticket I got for Justice League was "bought" using a pass I received for a show of Thor Ragnarok that was screened with only a single lens because the Christie Dolby Cinema projector had alignment problems. But there's a world of difference between a sub-par screening caused by a technical fault outside the theatre's control and a deliberate choice by the manager to project using the wrong setup and settings. All to avoid complaints from misinformed customers who don't know Justice League is a flat movie or do know but prefer to see the movie zoomed in and cropped so that they don't see exposed screen. Of course, a problem caused entirely by the chains abandoning masking...

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Stephan Shelley
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In addition to the other issues mentioned here has anyone noticed that the pillared image is off center to the left?

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Brad Miller
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It's centered. Something is probably slightly off on your setup.

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Stephan Shelley
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I have run it on two different screens and it is the same on both. It only takes a mm on the film to make a noticeable difference. You might not notice it just looking at the film.

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