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Geoff Jones
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Seattle Cinerama is showing it in 70MM.

https://cinerama.com/Movie.aspx?fc=5106000457

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Tyler Purcell
There are A LOT of reasons why the studio's still use 2k as their base for VFX work. The main reason is that nobody knows the difference and it saves A LOT of rendering time.
If that's really the case then why should anyone bother buying a 4K UHDTV set, or UHD Blu-ray discs? Why even bother filming something on 65mm film versus shooting it in 1080p with a video camera? If no one can tell the difference what's the point of bothering with the large format film cameras and projectors? Hell, why even bother with the film projectors at all? Why even bother with these JPEG2000 based DCPs for theatrical use? Give them a Blu-ray or an even lower bit rate Netflix style stream. If no one can tell the difference between 2K and 4K then why bother with any of that other shit?

Of course I can tell the difference between 2K and 4K and I've seen what real 70mm can deliver in terms of image quality. If the movie studios want me paying upwards of $20 per ticket to watch something that's fundamentally not really any better than what I can watch on my ordinary 65" 1080p HDTV set then it's a pretty tough sale to make. They need to be trying harder by doing a better job of it rather than pretending that we're still living in the late 1990's in terms of computational capability.

quote: Tyler Purcell
It's been proven time and time again, resolution of the medium on screen means very little, just look at the Super 16mm movies released in the last few years, they are at maximum a 2.5k medium and the movies still look crisp. The Phantom Thread on 70mm looked outstanding and that wasn't even a digital blow up.
Phantom Thread, as far as I know, what not post produced via digital intermediate. Its 70mm prints were blow-ups from 35mm film elements. And, yes, if the film emulsion is good enough Super 16mm can certainly yield a good quality HD resolution image. Film is not hard-bound to a Bayer pattern pixel grid.

quote: Tyler Purcell
Ohh and Murder On the Orient was nearly 100% 5/65... I think they used the digital camera for a night shot or something very minor.
Even if they shot nearly 100% of the movie on 5/65mm the footage was scanned and post produced in 4K before being output on a few 70mm prints.

By the way, thanks to the surcharge fad from IMAX, any show in 70mm usually carries a serious up-charge. That makes the act of outputting a 4K DI to 70mm just to market that "70MM" thing seem a bit like a rip-off.

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Scott Jentsch
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10 theaters in the US have 70mm showtimes listed:

California
Hollywood: ArcLight Hollywood
San Diego: ArcLight La Jolla
San Francisco: Alamo Drafthouse Cinema - New Mission
Sherman Oaks: ArcLight Sherman Oaks

Massachusetts
Somerville: Somerville Theatre

Minnesota
Plymouth: Emagine Willow Creek

New York
Brooklyn: Alamo Drafthouse Cinema - Downtown Brooklyn
New York: City Cinemas Cinemas 1 2 and 3
New York: City Cinemas Village East Cinema

Texas
Austin: Alamo Drafthouse Cinema - The Ritz

https://www.bigscreen.com/advsearch/70mm.php?movie=215356

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Stephan Shelley
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Your missing Grand Lake in Oakland CA. I think Brad Miller said the Look and Studio Grill in Texas are showing it as well.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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At least it's not ALL a crappy dijital blow up.

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Scott Jentsch
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quote: Stephan Shelley
Your missing Grand Lake in Oakland CA. I think Brad Miller said the Look and Studio Grill in Texas are showing it as well.
I should have added the usual disclaimer that the theaters actually have to provide their showtime information (w/ 70mm indicators) in order to show up in our search.

None of the theaters you (and Brad) mentioned have submitted their showtimes for 3/29 yet, so that's why they don't appear. Once they do, they'll be in the list!

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Mark Lensenmayer
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Gateway Film Center in Columbus, OH shows a 70mm engagement of READY PLAYER 1 on their website.

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Scott Norwood
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I can confirm the Somerville booking.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Glad to see this growing interest in 5/70mm presentations.

On the previous engagements, how was the crowd reaction to those releases against a digital presentation of the same feature?

But, a genuine 5/70mm presentation would be using changeover with carbon arc lamphouses, like the Ashcraft SuperCorelite, Peerless Hycadecent, and the Futura II of Strong.

..and DP70's, or AA-2 for us stateside uers. We could throw in the Century JJ and the Bauer U2.

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Stephan Shelley
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Norelco AAs at the Grand Lake.

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Scott Norwood
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Somerville, too:

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As for the audience reaction, I think that it would be difficult to measure. Naturally, the people who care will go out of their way to find and attend the 70mm shows. Most people probably won't notice. Since we are talking about permanent 70mm installations here, they are presumably run by people who care about presentation and showmanship (otherwise, they wouldn't have installed 70mm), so the 70mm venues probably all have pretty decent sound systems and large screens, too.

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Rick Raskin
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Monte: Why the fascination with carbon arcs? My hands were filthy after handling those rotating positives.

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Bill Brandenstein
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Scott, just curious: why the clockwise rotation orientation of the 70mm supply reel?

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Sean Weitzel
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Anyone know what model 70mm projectors the Alamo New Mission are running? Just idly curious and some 5 minutes googling didn't immediately turn up anything.

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Stephan Shelley
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The New Mission has a pair of Century JJs. Including the mag penthouse.

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