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Michael Hunt
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Re. Region Coding of DVD's

The European Union have been making noises about region coding too...

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Arthur Allen
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BTW, this page has a picture of what you'll see with the full-frame, open matte version of Wille Wonka: the hose that's blowing up Violet's blueberry costume.
http://www.borg.com/~superman/mm.html

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John Wilson
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But that isn't to say that's how they will present their 'full-frame' version. They may keep it to the 1.85 top and bottom to avoid things such as the hose and just pan and scan to the edges...

Either way...it's appalling in this day and age and with the DVD having such a relatively good reputation for presenting films as they were made to be presented.

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Bobby Henderson
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1.33:1 "full frame" needs to be banned, unless it is the original aspect ratio of the film (such as "Citizen Kane" for instance).

The same ignorant people who are whining about the black bars on the top and bottom of their screen right now will be the same daft dingbells whining about grey/black bars on the SIDES of their picture in a few years. I think this Wonka thing is just another way for Warner to get two pounds of flesh instead of one on selling this title. The people who cannot help waiting will jump on this "full frame" turkey and then WB will come out with an anamorphic version later for others to buy. Some people will wind up buying it twice.

Formats like Super35 go a long way to try to be "home video safe" with their widescreen photography. However, much of the CG effects work seen in lots of films these days winds up being as badly panned and scanned as any scope image.

Anamorphic enhanced widescreen should be the primary image format for any DVD release, unless it is the allowable exception of being a 1.33:1 OAR picture.

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William Hooper
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quote:
BTW, this page has a picture of what you'll see with the full-frame, open matte version of Wille Wonka: the hose that's blowing up Violet's blueberry costume. http://www.borg.com/~superman/mm.html

and that page says:

"For comparison, TV has an aspect ration of 4:3, "Wonka" was shot with 35mm film and matted with an aspect ratio of 1.85:1, and a really widescreen movie, like "Star Wars" is 2.35:1 (which was shot with 65, aka 70mm)."

I wonder if the 65mm Star Wars camera negative is in the same closet with the full length neg for See You Next Wednesday.



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Aaron Sisemore
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>>"Star Wars" is 2.35:1 (which was shot with 65, aka 70mm)."<<

Incorrect. Star Wars:A New Hope (and the other three SW films for that matter) were shot in 35mm anamorphic, NOT 65mm.

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Christopher Duvall
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Aaron is correct. The film was shot in 35 then blown up to 70mm for some prints. The sides were slightly cropped as well in the process.


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William Hooper
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That's why I said that the 65mm Star Wars camera neg is in the same closet with the ON for See You Next Wednesday.

The Willie Wonka page people have weird ideas.


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Josh Jones
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as for the regional coding issue, its not that hard to defeat, you just have to know where to look

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John Wilson
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This just in...

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

WILLY WONKA & THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY
JUST GOT SWEETER WITH A 30TH ANNIVERSARY
SPECIAL EDITION WIDESCREEN DVD
COMING NOVEMBER 13


Unwrap the Magic of This Classic Film with Special,
Never-Before-Seen Extras

“Delightful. A genuine work of imagination.” – Roger Ebert

BURBANK, CA (August 23, 2001) – Warner Home Video (WHV) welcomes you to a world of childhood wishes! On August 28, join Charlie Bucket, Violet Beauregarde, Augustus Gloop, Mike Teevee and Veruca Salt as they journey to Loompa Land for the ultimate, candy-filled adventure in Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory. This special, 30th Anniversary widescreen DVD will be available on November 13 for $24.98 SRP and is every fan’s “golden ticket” to over two captivating hours of fantasy. A special edition, full-frame edition will continue to be available on both VHS ($22.96 SRP) and DVD ($24.98 SRP).

The one-and-only Willy Wonka “makes the world taste good” for a whole new generation in this magical family classic sparkling with brilliantly restored picture and sound! Also included is the all-new documentary Pure Imagination: The Making of Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory featuring new interviews with Gene Wilder and the Wonka kids and revealing production secrets from the movie.

When they find prized Golden Tickets inside their Wonka candy bars, five lucky children win a behind-the-scenes glimpse of the legendary candy factory run by the mysterious Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder). Now, on a whirlwind tour of Willy’s incredible, edible realm of milk chocolate
waterfalls, elfish Oompa-Loompas and industrial sized sugar-coated creations, one very special boy will discover the sweetest secret of all: a generous, loving heart. It’s a taste of sheer movie-making enchantment, as you enter the simply scrumptious, surprise-in-each-bite, cherry-on-top world of Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory.
-more-
Warner Home Video, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory
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The magical, widescreen DVD and the full-frame DVD, filled with fantastic features and never-before-seen special moments, include:
·A fantastic, restored picture presentation.
·Animated Menus.
·All-new documentary Pure Imagination: The Making of Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory.
·Audio commentary with the now grown-up Wonka kids.
·Sing-along Wonka songs.
·Original theatrical featurette.

The special edition, full-frame VHS includes 15 minutes of bonus material including the all-new documentary Pure Imagination: The Making of Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory:
·Behind-the-scenes secrets revealed.
·First look at script changes, special effects techniques and anecdotes told.
·All-new interviews with Gene Wilder and all the now grown-up Wonka Kids.

“WHV is thrilled to be able to offer a fantastic, 30th Anniversary widescreen edition of this treasured classic,” said Ewa Martinoff, WHV Vice President of Family Entertainment Marketing. “Long-time fans of this timeless gem have expressed great interest in a widescreen release, and WHV is excited to bring it to them on November 13.”

I knew they'd cave...

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Christopher Duvall
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Thank you for posting that. You have made my day along with the info I got from my corporate office. Regal is going back to coconut oil. Wee hee. Anyhoo, it is nice to see that somebody at Warner pulled that stick from their behind and do this DVD right. Now let us all give an Amen...


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