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Greg Mueller
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 - posted 10-06-2003 02:49 PM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I actually bought a Dish Network receiver with a TIVO gizmo built in. I got it at Costco and took it home and hooked it up to the plasma display (Panasonic) using the s video plug. The problem was that it was stuck in one display mode (I think Zoom) and it would not let me switch out. I thought the unit was defective and called Dish Network and they had me try a bunch of stuff. They thought it was defective too and shipped my another one. It did the same thing. So I wound up taking both of them back. I guess there's some signal that is generated on the S video signal that the plasma screen just doesn't like. I tried it on composite and it worked fine that way, but what's the sense? I went back to my old unit and it works fine. That's why I was considering a stand alone Tivo gizmo. Does the TIVO hook up down stream from the dish receiver?

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Manny Knowles
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Help me understand...

What was the problem with using composite video? It worked, right?

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David Stambaugh
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If you want Tivo and a satellite receiver, definitely get a unit with both functions built into the same box. You don't want a standalone Tivo and standalone satellite receiver. The video signal will go through an extra generation of MPEG decoding/encoding and it *will* degrade the video quality. In other words, the satellite receiver has to decode the original MPEG into analog video that feeds into the separate Tivo box. Then the Tivo has to encode it again, and decode it again when you play it back. Definitely harmful to the video quality. Been there, done that, didn't like it at all.

The satellite receivers with Tivo built in (at least the current generation ones) store the data on the hard drive in its original MPEG form as received from the satellite. Then when you play it back, it decodes it, just that once. So it's in its original quality, not degraded.

A guy here at work bought a DirecTV/Tivo receiver for $99 at Circuit City this weekend. He said a couple weeks ago they had it for only $50 with rebate but he waited too long.

As far as why the signal was locked in zoom mode, wish I could help you. There has to be an explanation... [Confused]

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Greg Mueller
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Manny
Yes it worked but the signal was degraded because composit is not as good as S-video. My RGB ins were already used by the DVD player. But I don't think I could have hooked it up there anyway

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Mitchell Cope
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My cable company (Time-Warner) has a DVR that replaces the standard digital cable box. It's only $9.95 a month extra. It works like Tivo except it doesn't need a phone line connection and it can record 2 programs at once. Tivo is said to be working on recording two channels simultaneously, but hasn't done so yet. I've used that feature at least 3 times since I got the unit on Saturday. This thing is great!

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Chris Hipp
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the hughes DVR2 tivo records two shows at once. It jsut has two satelite tuners built in and records both signals.

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Greg Mueller
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I hate you guys that have cable. I bet you have cable internet too. I tried to get cable but they wanted $3000 to bring it down my easement

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Scott Jentsch
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For the original concern brought up by Chris, you may be experiencing the same problem as what is described here:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125181

The TiVo forums are a great place for everything TiVo, highly recommended!

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Chris Hipp
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Thanks Scott. I didn't even think to look for a Tivo forum.

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Phil Hill
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Cable sucks Greg! You shouldn't waste your time or $ on it. Get HDTV Satellite! It's **THE** only way to fly... [beer]

I had cable before the sats could carry the local channels, but dropped it cuz it was soooooo crappy!

I've had DirecTV since it started and have been totally happy with it.

>>> Phil

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Paul Linfesty
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I highly enjoy my cable DVR box. Only 6.95 above regular price (of the regular cable box)and no purchase of the recorder. The first box broke so I just walked it in to the cable company (Brighthouse, fromerly Time-Warner)office and walked out with a new one. As simple as that.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Phil told me he likes mini-dish satellite because it's digital.

Personally I think it looks like [bs] . I'll stick with C-BAND. [thumbsup]

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John Pytlak
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I have Time-Warner Cable in Rochester. Channels are delivered through a set-top box, with analog signals for about half the channels, and digital for the upper tier. Analog signal quality wins hands-down, due to the high level of compression being used for the digital channels:

http://www.twrochester.com/programming/lineup.cfm?area=1

(Basic and Standard Tier are analog signals, channels 2-67 )

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