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Greg Mueller
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Yah they barely had color TV back then. I remember the peacock coming on at the beginning of the show and the announcer announcing that it was in living color. I was in my teens then and didn't get a chance to see it in color until syndication

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Steve Guttag
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Well I've made a pretty good dent into seeing the 1st season on DVD....

After much consideration, I prefer the way the Laserdiscs handled the layout. The DVDs followed "airdates" rather than episode order. However, as far as seeing the evolution of the episodes, the shot order or episode order makes much more sense. Also, the "Next Week's Voyage" on the Laserdics were for the next week's voyage...on the DVD, the preview is grouped with the associated episode.

I do like the "pop-up video" option offered on a couple of episodes. Little message ballons pop up to describe little artifacts that might otherwise be overlooked. They are defeatable, of course (they are programmed as Subtitle 2).

I'm amazed at the amount of print damage on the episodes. All of the "stock footage" has some sort of dirt or damage and some of the main part of some episodes have scratches, some rather prominant, for several seconds. Since the scratches come and go with edits, I can only presume they were on the negatives or early stages of the prints.

The big dislike I have is having to wait through the whole Paramount startup menu on each disc...and that to play any episodes you have to first select the title...which brings you through a graphic to get to the screen that eventually lets you play the episode...takes too long and too many button pushes.

However, image clarity remains high on all episodes.

The new 5.1 mix seems to be done with much restraint and does add a bit to the show. Off screen calls do happend off screen...even the opening "swishes" of the ship flying out of the screen fly into the appropriate surround. Again...most everything is from center but when they can, they do use the other channels to give a sense of space. In "Miri" the kids chanting come from all channels to give a sense they are all around you.

Steve

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David Favel
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Miri, Great episode, any favourite episodes that stand out, and why?

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Greg Mueller
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City on The Edge of Forever (I love time travel)
Requiem For Methuselah (The last scene where Spock says "Forget")
The Paradise Syndrome (The tragedy)

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Steve Guttag
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I just really liked the Corbomite Maneuver. Heck it even starred a very young Clint Howard (Ron Howard's younger brother seen in every Ron Howard film...somewhere).

The Cage...a true masterpiece of work.

Tomorrow is Yesterday...another great time-travel story.

The Deadly Years...a great aging episode.

I always liked "A Piece of the Action"

"Spock's Brain" only for its comedic value...it was Star Trek's equivalent to the Brady Bunch's "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia...with "Brain and Brain, what is brain?"

"I, Mudd"...this just a hoot, plain and simple.

"Mirror, Mirror" was a great story that they reprised in one of the spin offs (DS 9, I believe) and also showed up in Shatner's books that continue the Star Trek story.

Steve

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David Favel
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Can't believe Trouble with Tribbles hasn't been mentioned.

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Greg Mueller
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..."I always liked "A Piece of the Action"......

After the cancellation of the series there were a number of Trek conventions around Seattle. At one of them they had 35mm Trek episodes that were chosen by ticket buyers popularity vote. One of them was "A Piece of the Action". When it got to the part where Spock finally tries his hand at "the vernacular" and says "I'd advise yas ta keep dialin da phone" It brought the house down. Never seen an audience spontaneously erupt like that, before or since

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John Pytlak
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quote: Greg Mueller
After the cancellation of the series there were a number of Trek conventions around Seattle. At one of them they had 35mm Trek episodes that were chosen by ticket buyers popularity vote.
Were those 35mm prints just for showing at conventions, or were they available for theatrical screenings? Did Paramount distribute them?

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David Stambaugh
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Back in the early-mid 80s there was some old guy traveling around the country cashing in on Star Trek by showing the infamous ST Blooper Reel at colleges and universities. I think it was 16mm but I wouldn't bet the house on that. He'd do one or two shows, then move on to the next city. This was before the blooper reel became readily available on bootleg video, and way before the Internet. I'm sure he wasn't affiliated with Paramount either.

I distinctly remember 2 things about his presentation: The film was TRASHED, and through the entire show he referred to William Shatner as "William Shackter". [Roll Eyes]

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Michael Coate
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quote: David Favel
any favourite episodes that stand out
My favorites...

1st Season:
Arena
Balance Of Terror
The City On The Edge Of Forever

2nd Season:
Assignment: Earth
A Piece Of The Action
The Trouble With Tribbles

3rd Season:
The Enterprise Incident
The Tholian Web

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Greg Mueller
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Apparently the show was shot on 35mm as I know of a collector that had a couple of episodes and the staff people always referred to them as "The Original 35mm prints". Don't know if they were available to theaters. The staff of the convention had to go through Paramount to get them as I recall. They had that blooper reel (on 35) at the convention and it was stolen there. Later bootleg 16mm prints (that were awful as well as incomplete) started showing up and that's what you see on those tapes etc.
I got a chance to see Gene Roddenberry at his own traveling show where he talked and ran a print of "The Cage" although it was only in B&W. It's been over 30 years since all this went down so I'm a little hazy on some of the memories.
I saw "Scotty" once and he ran a print of Tribbles but I don't know if it was 16 or 35. Saw "Bones" at an "Apple Blossom Festival Parade" in Wenatchee, Wa once. Never seen Kirk or Spock in person. Saw Sulu numerous times at conventions (party animal) Saw Uhuru once too. Never saw Chekov

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David Stambaugh
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I saw James Doohan at a ST convention here in Eugene. The audience was full of the usual assortment of Star Trek fans, old and young. Doohan was introduced to great applause. He started reminiscing about his Star Trek experience, and I was pretty sure right from the get-go that Scotty had been imbibing a little Romulan Ale before he took the stage. His talk kind of drifted around, and he was making an effort to be personable and upbeat, but then he started in on Shatner. Now as far as I know, Doohan and Shatner still don't talk to each other to this day. Anyway Scotty, with obvious bitterness, said something like "That egotistical bastard Shatner ruined it for all of us!". He quickly caught himself and tried to change the subject and make happy again, but you could tell the audience was slightly in shock. [Big Grin]

Another time I saw Worf, what's his name, Michael Dorn. He was in civilian clothes, which obviously disappointed a lot of the fans. During the Q&A session, and I swear I'm not making this up, an ADULT in the audience, dressed in a Starfleet uniform, asked Dorn "What does it feel like being beamed up?" This person was serious too. [Eek!]

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Joe Redifer
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Shatner and Doohan still do not talk to this day, however that may be because Doohan is DEAD. Last I checked, the majority of his skin has rotted away but many internal organs are visable and even identifiable. Doohan has a web camera in his coffin so that web viewers can check on the state of his decomposure at any time. I can post the link if you want.

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David Stambaugh
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Say what???!!! James Doohan is still among the living, although he has early-stage Alzheimer's. DeForest Kelley died in 1999. Does he (De) have a CasketCam? I heard Paramount sold Bones' bones on eBay.

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