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Topic: New DRM scheme may make present DVD players/burners obsolete
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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

Posts: 3836
From: Albuquerque, NM
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 05-20-2005 01:07 AM
Heh heh, the latest DRM scheme, this time from research going on at UCLA:
quote: Give Your DVD Player the Finger
By Katie Dean
02:00 AM May. 19, 2005 PT
Researchers in Los Angeles are developing a new form of piracy protection for DVDs that could make common practices like loaning a movie to a friend impossible.
University of California at Los Angeles engineering professor Rajit Gadh is leading research to turn radio frequency identification, or RFID, tags into an extremely restrictive form of digital rights management to protect DVD movies.
RFID tags have been called "wireless bar codes" -- though they hold more data -- and are commonly used for things like ID badges or keeping track of inventory in a retail store or hospital.
Though RFID tags are usually read by a wireless data reader, the proposed DVD-protection scheme would make no use of RFID's wireless capabilities.
Rather, the researchers are interested in the ability to write data to the tags, which can't be done on a DVD once it's been burned.
Here's how the system might work:
At the store, someone buying a new DVD would have to provide a password or some kind of biometric data, like a fingerprint or iris scan, which would be added to the DVD's RFID tag.
Then, when the DVD was popped into a specially equipped DVD player, the viewer would be required to re-enter his or her password or fingerprint. The system would require consumers to buy new DVD players with RFID readers.
Gadh said his research group is trying to address the problem of piracy for the movie industry.
"Content owners would like to have extremely tight control on the content so they can maximize revenue," Gadh said. "Users want to move stuff around."
Gadh said the proposed system is "absolutely" more restrictive to users than anti-copying methods already used to protect DVDs.
"By definition this is a restrictive form (of digital rights management)," Gadh said.
Gadh said he could not reveal specifically how the system would work, as it is still in the research stage. A prototype will be available by the end of the summer, he said, and at that point, it will be shopped around to movie studios and technology companies.
"I don't know quite what is going to work in the real world," Gadh said.
Most DVDs are already encrypted with an anti-copying mechanism called Content-Scrambling System. The encryption has been broken, however, and programs to descramble DVDs can be found all over the internet.
DVDs are also "region coded" so that discs sold in the United States, for instance, cannot be played in the United Kingdom. The region coding gives the movie studios control over where and when films are released on DVD.
Ed Felten, a computer science professor at Princeton University, called the proposal the "limit of restrictiveness."
"I think people would find it creepy to give their fingerprint every time they wanted to play a DVD," Felten said. "It's hard to think that would be acceptable to customers."
He said it seems unlikely that people would buy new DVD players with RFID readers in order to purchase DVDs that are less functional.
Privacy advocates have expressed concern about RFID technology because the tags can tie products to individuals, potentially without their knowledge.
Seth Schoen, staff technologist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said it's unlikely this DRM plan will be any more effective than others preceding it.
"It only requires one person to break it," Schoen said.
Schoen said this is the "smart cow problem": Once one of the cows opens the gate, the others will follow.
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Martin Brooks
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 900
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: May 2002
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posted 05-31-2005 08:47 PM
quote: Alan Dallas Actually they can afford to pratically give away DVD's. I was reading an article about 2 months ago that looked at the DVD Mfg buisness and it was Estimated that to make one(1) copy of a Movie on DVD for these companies it only costs them approx. $.08 cents USD. Not including Packaging/Werehousing/Shipping. Wish I could find the article again.
It doesn’t cost 8 cents to manufacture a DVD – it costs more like 80 cents to a dollar. But even that is irrelevant. Why do people only figure the manufacturing cost when they try to calculate how much the studios profit? The manufacturing cost is the LEAST significant cost in the making of the DVD.
You have to figure in the original budget of the movie (since these days, most films barely earn back the negative cost in theatrical release), royalties to actors, directors, etc., packaging, programming, mastering, marketing cost (the biggest cost for a major DVD release), etc.
When I was in the CD-ROM business, many of our critics used to say the same thing: “it only costs a few dollars [back then] to make a CD-ROM. Why do you charge so much?” They conveniently forgot to figure the costs for maintaining the databases (only a few hundred people on staff to do this), royalties for additional content, programmers, customer support, packaging, documentation, etc. It used to drive me nuts.
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Frank Angel
Film God

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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 06-05-2005 04:47 PM
On the other hand, Martin, motion pictures, unlike other copyright content, are already presold. Millions of dollars in production and marketing are already accomplished by reason of the theatrical release and in most cases, have already been recouped by the time the DVD is ready for release. Everything about the DVD sales is riding on the back of money already spent on the motion picture release. Even jacket artwork and such is grabbed from what has already been accomplished for the film advertising. Sure, some publicity has to be done for the DVD, but for all intents and purposes, it is not much more than what it takes to announce the DVD's release date. You are not going to have to mount a multi-million dollar ad blitz to get people to buy the Return of the Sith on DVD.
That is not to say that the studio shouldn't be able to protect its property, but when I purchase a DVD, why should I be prevented from making a protection copy? If they want to do away with that right, then give me the same warrantee that the copyright law affords the studio, i.e., a lifetime warrantee on the physical product -- "if it stops playing during your lifetime plus fifty years we will replace it!" Yah, that will be the day. And because they DON'T warrantee their product is why I had to re-purchase a couple of hundred rotting laserdiscs for which no studio ever reimbursed me. They sure are hot to protect their "content," but to hell with the guy who buy the phsical piece of crap they put it on. How nice if there had been the technology back then to burn a protection copy of each laserdisc I bought! Given the number of copies of my favorite classic films that I've purchased over and over again over the years....for laser rot, for getting the letterboxed version instead of Pan&Scan, for getting the digital sound version, for getting THX version -- hey, I should be able to make as many freakin copies of LofA and the rest of my collection what with the number of times I have had to shelled out $$$ for that same title, to say nothing of the number of times I paid to see these titles in the theatres. Is should own points on the damn pictures.
And how arrogant is it for them to say I can't make a protection copy? And how stupid is it to think that I won't figure out a way to do it? How absurd is it for them to think that they can dictate what the poor shlub who buys their DVD can do in his own home with something that he's purchased fairly and squarely and that he OWNS! Mind you, I am not talking about copying for distibution or anything that obviously infringes, but they want to reach into one's home and control something they already sold to you, AND TAKE YOUR FINGER PRINTS to boot!! If they are that uptight, then don't sell the damn DVDs....the greedy money sucking scum.
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