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Larry Myers
Master Film Handler

Posts: 371
From: Herndon, VA, USA
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 07-10-2007 04:00 PM

The issue on making a bill better is how they were discovered in the first place.

The counterfeiters would go through the original bill correcting mistakes that were really "mistakes" or were intended to be mistakes to discover a counterfeit bill. As far as the machines, more then one machine is used by the mint. Usually the price of the machines is based on the amount of bills produced in one hour. Most pro counterfeiters pass up $1 bills. It stands to reason you don't use the same high production machines to make $100 bills. Some of these high production machines take years to install and cost's 100's of millions of dollars and fill a whole building.

I was on the reproduction side and not on the reports side. The final reports I left to someone else. My only job was to track down these very high quality low production printing machines. That is, who makes them, who sells them and where are they going?

If you think a company can bookleg DVD's, sell them for a dollar and make money then that's your issue. If I buy a DVD for a dollar at a flea market and it's wrong, I simply throw it away.

If it plays great I am happey. Just like my last purchase of U-571 with a Walmart sticker on it for $2, I would say it's not a bootleg copy.

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John Hawkinson
Film God

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From: Cambridge, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 07-10-2007 10:58 PM

Bobby writes, "Better than our own" is a really odd statement to make about counterfeit US currency. A good counterfeit bill is either a faithful reproduction or not."

While true, so-called "supernotes" have been in the news recently for having finer and better detail than our own notes.

Kevin Hall wrote a story for the McClatchy newspapers on May 22nd that discussed a report from the Swiss Federal Police that gave pictures of the differences. Unfortunately the original story no longer seems to be online, and the archived version doesn't have pictures.

I do have some saved images from the article:

The top half is an actual US $100 note, the bottom is a "better" reproduction ("supernote"). Note how the left side of the steeple is continuous in the bottom half, but not the top.

--jhawk

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 07-10-2007 11:28 PM

That difference in print quality looks much more like an issue of paper differences than quality of printing hardware. The ink spread is more pronounced on the U.S. bill than that fake "supernote." That usually indicates a more coarse "tooth" in the paper.

quote: Larry Myers
If you think a company can bookleg DVD's, sell them for a dollar and make money then that's your issue.

The mass production counterfeiters in China seem to be able to do that just fine. I don't like that or any of the other thousands of copyright and patent infringements regularly occurring there, and I certainly will not do anything to support it directly -such as buying bootleg DVDs.

The price on a legit American DVD release is another matter. Even at $20, I think a lot of DVDs have a good amount of value in them so long as the movie is good in the first place. I also think it's just fine for HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs to command an even higher price, at least for now.

When it comes to pre-recorded entertainment on disc, the only thing I find overpriced is a good amount of bare bones music CDs. They often cost as much as any DVD. And they don't gradually fall down in price in manner of DVD movies.

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John Hawkinson
Film God

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From: Cambridge, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 07-10-2007 11:39 PM

You're right. That's not such a good example. Try this one:

--jhawk

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 07-10-2007 11:48 PM

Have you guys checked out www.monoprice.com for cables and the such? Sure, you may want to get your 7-mile HDMI cable from those great guys at Monster®, but for shorter runs I'm sure it's more than adequate and the prices are almost scary.

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David Stambaugh
Film God

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From: Eugene, Oregon
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 07-11-2007 06:18 PM

I bought an HDMI to DVI converter cable from monoprice.com. The build quality seems excellent despite the scary cheap price.

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Larry Myers
Master Film Handler

Posts: 371
From: Herndon, VA, USA
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 07-24-2007 05:05 PM

I just went back to Best Buy. Blue Ray 1080P is now $599 and HD DVD 1080P is $499 with 5 free HD DVD's out of a choice of 10 or so possible titles. I talked to the sale guy about the HDMI and the Component issue. As before, he said you can't use component connections to play 1080p. I told him the info I got on this thread. He went away thinking I was crazy only to back peddle about 10 minutes later. After checking with several managers, it was well HDMI connection is just better then a component connection. The Blue Ray unit did have the component connections.

I am still thinking Blue Ray is a better choice. If I wait another week or so it might come down even more.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-29-2007 08:46 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
You might be able to get by using a component cable...so long as the HD-DVD disc doesn't have the HDCP flag activated to prevent HD-quality video from streaming over the component video outputs.

FWIW: The ver.2.0 of the firmware for the Toshba HD player includes this flagging ability, apparently the older versions did not have this ability. The other nice thing is that the player now displays the resolution on screen at the beginning of the disk if you're playing a regular DVD. There is a definate improvement using the HDMI connections here... I can switch back and forth between component and HDMI. No expensive HDMI or Component cables either... just mid priced stuff. On HDMI here is less noise in some of the colors and the picture just plain looks sharper with HD-DVD's.

Or do what I did and get he cheapo Toshiba for $238.00 and still get the 5 free DVD's. I dare you to leave the store without also buying at least a half dozen other HD titles as well! Circus City has a really good selection of both Blue Ray and HD-DVD's here in SLC. Then when the dual fomat players apear jump on it and spend the big bucks. The Toshiba also does a fantastic job at up-converting regular DVD's.

Mark

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