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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 11-21-2008 10:53 AM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dolby TrueHD is actually capable of playing much more than just 8 channels of audio. The Blu-ray and HD-DVD formats limit any audio storage/playback format to 8 channels.

It is pretty strange how there's so few Blu-ray movies using Dolby TrueHD for 7.1 audio.

It seems like DTS-HD Master Audio gets a lot more use for 7.1 channel releases. Disney even surprised me when they released Sleeping Beauty with a DTS-HD 7.1 mix rather than something in Dolby TrueHD. Maybe Disney made some sort of deal with DTS. The Wall•E BD has a DTS-HD Master Audio track on it rather than the Dolby formats normally found on Pixar releases.

Lionsgate has released a decent number of movies on Blu-ray with 7.1 channel LPCM mixes.

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Joe Redifer
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Wall-E is in 6.1 channels despite the box saying it is 5.1. I imagine they took the original 6.1 discrete mix and slapped it on the disc which became the matrixed EX/ES mix that the theaters played.

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Jon P. Inghram
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The 25th anniversary DVD of Blade Runner has some (IMHO) horrible sounding reverb effects added in certain scenes, like when Roy and Leon are interrogating the eye guy (James Hong.) The 1992 Directors Cut release sounds much better to me but unfortunately I haven't seen it in the theater so I can't make that comparison.

In Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters, the Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past from the Future was almost unintelligible when we saw it in the theater, while on the DVD he sounds fine.

On the other hand, the 1998 DVD release of The Thing (haven't heard the '04 re-release version) sounded, to me at least, to be a good match to the theatrical version which I saw recently. The picture however did not compare very well: The theatrical version blew the DVD away. Even after seeing the DVD many times I had never noticed that at least one of the dogs had one blue and one brown eye, and that one character had a nose ring.

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Joe Tommassello
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 - posted 11-21-2008 05:36 PM      Profile for Joe Tommassello   Email Joe Tommassello       Edit/Delete Post 
Presumably home THX settings are supposed to compensate for the differences between the theater and the home environment. According to the article a theater mix needs a brighter sound which would support what Joe Redifer stated about the results from his auto-setup feature on his new receiver. Of course if the DVD producer "compensates" in advance then the setting would be wrong again. There should at least be a standard.

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Bobby Henderson
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The "standard" should be creating two variants of the same mix, with one variant optimized for large volumes of cubic air space typical of commercial movie theater auditoriums and the other variant a near field mix without the "X-curve" being applied to the EQ of the mix.

Some movie studios already do this on certain releases. Others do not. No one is going to agree on everything. That's why we have different studios using different audio formats and doing other things their own way.

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Frank Angel
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And that's why, in the end, it all boils down to Joe the Home Theatre Owner who is going to adjust his "tone controls" to his exact taste, no matter how far off he gets it from any standard. He's the one who has to be pleased and he's the one with his fat fingers on the control knobs....with his wife constantly telling him to "turn it down."

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Frank Angel
control knobs
LOL, what century are YOU living in? Knobs... hahahahahahahah! It's all digital buttons now!

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