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Claude S. Ayakawa
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 - posted 01-14-2009 06:27 PM      Profile for Claude S. Ayakawa   Author's Homepage   Email Claude S. Ayakawa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Because the 3-D version is already out of print on DVD, I decided to get the BD version of JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH in 3-D before that too become unavailable. I rented the 3-D DVD from Blockbuster when it was released and the effects was not bad at all and that is the reason I had decided to buy the BD hoping it will be better in H.D,. I saw the movie in a theatre in Real D and was entertained by it and although the picture was a bit dark in 3-D, I thought it was fantastic.. I felt it was worth having because I know I will want to watch it again when I get a high definition set very soon.

-Claude

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Julio Roberto
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 - posted 01-15-2009 03:12 PM      Profile for Julio Roberto     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here is a recent article mentioning some of the stuff we have been talking about here (polarized flat panels vs shutter glasses and fast flat panels):

Reflections on CES: 3-D galore, The Beach's end, Gibson blues


The author basically gives his impression by going back and forth from a 120hz 3D enabled flat panel (shutter glasses) and a polarized one (passive glasses). He preferred the second choice.

Anaglyph can be done quite ok with lots of care, specially in blu-ray. On DVD, it's a compromise in resolution, due to the color subsampling. It can work particularly well for black and white content.

I remember one Laserdisc that had great anaglyph 3D. It was a black and white (canadian, I think) movie called The Mask.

But anaglyph is always light-years away from any other system, be it field-sequential DVD's (of which there are a couple of 10's in the market) or any other delivery method (except "Pulfrich" 3D gimmiks).

Another piece:

3D is coming to a living room near you

The article speaks on how new 3D enabled flat panel TV's hardly cost anything more than current TV's and manufacturers expect to lure consumers into purchasing them. Good luck with that.

And another thing we talked about: Playstation3 in 3D

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2009/01/07/ces-2009-sony-teases-with-high-quality-ps3-3d

which Sony demoed in a flat panel, polarized, non-shutter glasses monitor on CES2009.

Actually, Sony cheap'ed-out and decided to use the very same RealD glasses they stole from a movie theater to show the 3D demos ... [Wink]

[ 01-16-2009, 04:15 AM: Message edited by: Julio Roberto ]

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Joshua Waaland
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 - posted 01-18-2009 07:49 PM      Profile for Joshua Waaland   Email Joshua Waaland   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was just going to post that same cnet link. I am in the market for a flat panel for our house and went on cnet to see what kind was best and read up on them since it is all Greek to me.

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Julio Roberto
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It is really weird that you can get pirated 2xHD (i.e. two full color 1080p) movies off the internet (720p versions widely available h264 recompressed) and play them back in full 3D glory in your 3D monitor and yet you can't buy it legally in (some variation of 3D) blu-ray.

There goes the "3D can't be pirated" etc. At least two very recent mayor 3D movies in "good" (non-anaglyphic) dual-view 3D pirated already in HD pirated "for free".

Your usual disclaimer that I do not condone piracy and this statement is only meant to make a point that: A) 3D at home in HD is possible today (although not legally) and B) 3D won't stop piracy much, if at all, specially given enough time if it ever becomes popular enough.

Here is one way to get it legally until the blu-ray people sort their mess out.

http://www.next3d.com/NEXT_3D.html

The link is for a company that offer 3D content if you have an Xbox 360 hooked up to a 3D monitor (via regular HDMI).

quote:
Next3D content providers include rights holders to spectacular films originally produced for IMAX® 3D theaters, classic 3D films, and 3D movie trailers. We’re also partnering with producers and studios to create 3DHD Television distributed via Next3D and venues that provide live 3D camera feeds.

In addition to commercial content, Next3D will offer user-generated content channels, making it easy for anyone to post and share 3D video and still images.


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Mark J. Marshall
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DVDfile.com recently noticed in it's review of the new Friday the 13th 3D DVDs that the 2000 2D version DVD is a master of one of the eyes and the 2009 2D version DVD is a master of the other eye.

Someone needs to take those two disks and figure out how to sync them up on one of your 3D panels or two polarized DLP projectors.

Link to dvdfile.com review.

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Julio Roberto
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I did this with a couple of 3D movies just for fun when I realized I had left and right transfers of them (Amytiville and Magnificent Bodyguard).

Unfortunately, they were usually graded so far apart that the result wasn't really acceptable.

You can't effectively re-grade all the scenes in 4:2:0 8bits systems to match, specially if they are far off in contrast. Too much information is lost already and the re-grading to minimun commons takes away much more still.

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