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Claude S. Ayakawa
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 - posted 06-22-2009 03:30 PM      Profile for Claude S. Ayakawa   Author's Homepage   Email Claude S. Ayakawa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Julio,

Since I am very happy with the dvd version of GODS AND GENERALS, I guess there will be no point to get the movie on Blu-Ray. A comment was made by someone that the probable reason the disc does lot look good on my HD set is because the setting on my player might not be set correctly. After I had the store play the G&G disc on their BD player and HD set and the picture still looked washed out even on their set up, it proves there is is nothing wrong with my BD pLayer setting.

GODS AND GENERAL looked beautiful on the big theatre screen and DVD and I was expecting the ultimate picture quality when I bought the BD, I guess I was wrong if you all believe nothing can go wrong in the manufacturing process despite the fact that all digital duplicating masters are exactly the same. All of the reviews I have read regarding the picture of G&G on Blu-Ray have all been favorable citing colorful images. The only negative comments by one reviewer was picture sharpness. No one had said the the picture was light and washed out.


-Claude

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Scott Jentsch
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I couldn't find a review of Gods and Generals on Blu-ray at Widescreen Review (those guys are the pickiest bunch), but High Def Digest did review it:

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The Video: Sizing Up the Picture

Presented on Blu-ray and HD DVD using identical 1080p/VC-1 transfers, 'Gods and Generals' has its strong points, but overall I found it visually disappointing compared to most in its high-def brethren.

First, the good news. Colors are more robust than they were on the weak standard-def DVD transfer, and fleshtones benefit from the improved saturation. Black levels are deep, contrast is spot on, and the picture sometimes has a welcome level of depth that makes elements on the battlefields pop. Likewise, the print is very clean and doesn't suffer from source noise, scratches, or blemishes.

Unfortunately, the overriding issue here is a persistent softness -- for every technically proficient scene, there is another that is blurry and poorly defined. Much of this bothersome softness occurs during exterior shots and results in smeared bunches of leaves and patches of grass. Even hair and fine texture details in these scenes become muddled. If this problem were limited in scope, I might have been more forgiving, but the softness is so pervasive that I found myself continually distracted.

All things considered, this one’s certainly a step up from the standard DVD, but it remains a disappointment in a crowded field of superior high-def catalog transfers.

It sounds like they think the HD DVD and Blu-ray were a step up from the DVD. I haven't seen the movie in a long time, and I've not seen the HD DVD or Blu-ray version, so I can't attest to what Claude is reporting.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Yes, My G.T. looks perfect now. Big differences are obvious on a really dark film like this if the DVD player settings are wrong. To be honest... all the other Blue Ray disks I have I couldn't ever tell it was set wrong. The rest loked great.

As for Wal-Mart... the one here has a really bad selection of Blue Rays... I suppose there are Wal-Marts that have good selections but just not around here... Smith's Foods has a better selection than the local Wal-Mart does. Best Buy still has the best selection in this area since Virgin closed their store.

Mark

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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The old HD-DVD of Gods & Generals looked fantastic.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Mark,

In addition to all of the latest Blu-Ray releases, the Walmart I shop at had GHOSTBUSTERS, JOHN ADAMS and a few other 'hot' catalog titles that just came out in BD. Yes, I agree with you about Best Buy having the best selections and best deals in town. The current Blu-Ray Sale I had commented about in another thread I had started is a good example. I picked up ENTER THE DRAGON, NATURAL BORN KILLERS, MATRIX, DIRTY HARRY as well as TRANSFORMERS yesterday and that should do it for the week It is unfortunate however that Best Buy does not bring in lesser known films like THE SEVENTH SEAL and THE DIARY OF ANN FRANK that came out last week. The Borders in my area did get them but they want full list price for them so I got them from Amazon.

As far as the BD of GODS AND GENERALS, I suspect the the two discs I tried to buy were not pressed correctly due to a manufacturing error because they exhibited the same unacceptable picture quality on my HD set as well as the one at the store. I am almost sure if I bought it from another source, I might get a perfect copy.

-Claude

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Bobby Henderson
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Best Buy has a wide selection of movies on Blu-ray, but their prices are often pretty high. Sometimes they'll have some decent sales, but then so does Target, Wal-Mart, etc. You just have to shop around and avoid the urge to impulse buy. I'm still more likely to order movies on Blu-ray from Amazon.

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Joe Tommassello
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I don't have the G&G blu-ray in my collection so I can't reference it now but I had rented it from Netflix and don't recall any issues with the image.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Joe,

My curiosity has got the best of me and and I just got to know what is going on with this movie on Blu-ray so I had decided to rent it from my Blockbuster online membership. The movie is available in the high definition format so I had put the title on the top of my queue and should receive it next week. The DVD I have is beautiful so there is no reason the BD should not be better than the SD version based on the good review comments and Mitchell who saw it it on HD-DVD.

-Claude

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