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Author Topic: Finally! HD Turner Classic Movies Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-03-2009 09:35 AM                  quote: Mike Blakesley And Claude, if you type "SEVEN DWARFF" once more I am going to go out of my mind. That's how it's spelled with a Hawaiian accent!  |  IP: Logged Richard P. May Expert Film Handler Posts: 243 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jan 2006 posted 11-03-2009 12:23 PM                     Back to the question of HD in Los Angeles. I contacted TW Cable (our supplier), and they said they are not using HD here. Frankly, I don't think it makes much difference, as most of TCM's movies are old masters. I wonder if they used the new NORTH BY NW, mastered for BluRay, last night? Did anybody notice?  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-03-2009 01:10 PM                  I watched some of NxNW last night on TCMHD. It was beautiful and better than I'd ever seen it look. Still, though it was obviously better than their SD channel, it was definitely not a full HD picture. I still think TCM is upconverting everything they show. The resolution is excellent but the images have that softer, upconverted look. I can't say why though because it's obviously not the same video stream...the logo clearly says "TCM HD" and the aspect ratios are correct in the 16:9 frame. I'd be curious to know why they don't use their full HD transfers. Maybe they are planning some HD hoopla at some point in the future and want to hold off their new material for that time.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-03-2009 01:24 PM                        Richard, it is not my intention to differ with you but there is a big difference between TCM's standard and HD signal.. As I had mentioned in my previous post, the picture quality of some of the movies I have seen had an image quality like a beautiful up converted DVD. Also as Mitchell Dvoskin had stated, letterbox pictures fills the entire screen without having to zoom and that is another plus about TCM's HD programming. I watched RHAPSODY, starring Elizabeth Taylor and Victorio Gasman last night and although the 1954 Technicolor film was not restored, it was shown letterboxed and was very nice. eh, Mike why it badda you when I spell DWARFF like that? Joe, you one smart bagga because you know us guys in Hawaii no can spell good Enough said! -Claude  |  IP: Logged Richard P. May Expert Film Handler Posts: 243 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jan 2006 posted 11-04-2009 12:22 PM                     Claude, Thanks for the comment. I hope when we get TCM HD I will see the improvement. Regarding RHAPSODY, I supervised new elements being made when I was in charge of preservation at Turner. It should look beautiful. It was shot in 3-strip Technicolor, so properly should be shown 1:37 ratio. Dick  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-04-2009 01:44 PM                        You're welcome, Richard RHAPSODY was shown on TCM in HD in the 1:85 aspect ratio and it looked great in that format. Although the color was wonderful, the image was pale and lacked contrast. I was only sixteen years old when the movie was released in 1954 and this movie as well as THE STORY OF THREE LOVES, INTERRUPTED MELODY, THE GREAT WALTZ, THE GREAT CARUSO, STUDENT PRINCE, DEEP IN MY HEART from MGM and FANTASIA from Disney as well as other films played a very important part in introducing me to classical music at a very young age. I usually erase programs I record on my DVR after I had watched them but RHAPSODY is a keeper and hope TCM will air more films about classical music in the near future It is rather ironic that Los Angeles, the film capitol of the world does not have TCM HD service yet, Richard -Claude  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-04-2009 02:02 PM                        quote: Claude S. Ayakawa Mike why it badda you when I spell DWARFF like that? Cause U seem like a guy who shd b able to spel betta dan dat.  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-04-2009 03:35 PM                  This reminds me of a story... I knew a guy named Hubert many years ago. One day at work I stumbled over the pronunciation of some word and asked him how to say it. His reply was "I don't know about that but you know what word I can't say? Fyute." "Fyute?" I asked. "Yeah" he said. "You know, fyute! Apples, oranges...Fyute!"  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-05-2009 01:16 PM                        That is very funny, Joe -Claude  |  IP: Logged Karl Borowski Expert Film Handler Posts: 161 From: Sulking in GameFAQ Forum Registered: Sep 2009 posted 11-05-2009 02:06 PM                     Claude: So far, has just about everything you've seen on TCM been in HD, or are there some (disappointing?) gaps in their lineup?  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-05-2009 02:30 PM                        Hi Karl, The programming I have seen so far on HD- TCM is very good. The picture quality varies from fair to outstanding. VALENTINO was excellent and so was YOURS, MINE AND OURS. TO SIR WITH LOVE and RHAPSODY both had pictures that was kind of flat but they had good color and nice. HOME FROM THE HILLS was flat in contrast with color that look rather faded. From what I have seen so far, the picture quality of any movie they show thAt I had seen is based on the condition of the original source and possibly the way they are transmitted. The only thing I cannot get too excited about TCM is the sound. I know HOME FROM THE HILL is a stereo film because it sounded great on a four track stereo print I saw in a theatre and on laserdisc but the sound on TCM was very weak. Has anyone else noticed this about TCM;s stereo sound? -Claude  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-05-2009 02:44 PM                  I did notice that their standard def is 2-channel stereo and their hi def decodes into Dolby Digital - presumably 5.1 channels. A good test will be a multi-channel title you are familiar with and maybe even have on disc by which you can compare. It is pretty common to have a 5.1 signal and only two speakers active. Most recently I tried watching "From Dusk Till Dawn" from someone's On Demand selections and while it showed "Dolby Digital" and 5.1 channels on my receiver it was definitely just two channels ported over. Of course the equipment perceived a source of six discrete channels so it didn't even kick into the Dolby Pro Logic mode. It would have been smarter to leave it 2-channel stereo if they weren't going to do it right.  |  IP: Logged

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