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Author Topic: Gone With The Wind BR Review Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-18-2009 04:13 PM                  Most of us here understand what a roadshow presentation is but the vast majority of people are either too young to remember or simply uninformed about such things. I'd bet a surprising number of people would think there was a defective disc if nothing was on the screen while they were hearing music. Because we are who we are we also consider the musical segments part of the entire experience and most people probably think it's time to pee or talk or get more snacks without ever thinking about it. In "The Ten Commandments" (where is THAT on blu-ray?) did they have the overture before or after the DeMille speech? It's been so long I can't remember!  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-18-2009 06:12 PM                        The speech came after the overture, Joe. As for the title cards used on road show movies on DD and BDs, that was the argument for using them but Fox has been featuring blank screen on their road show dvds, laserdiscs and Bds of road show movies without any problem. Come to think of it, there is one Warner road show title with music played against a blank screen. It is 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY. Universal was aware of the situation with SPARTUCUS when the overture started with the word OVERTURE on a blank screen was shown and after a few seconds, the word faded away and the rest of the overture played against a blank screen.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-18-2009 06:33 PM                     I have a friend who borrowed "Funny Girl" from me and returned it the next day saying it was defective. She is from the era of the Roadshow type movies. I asked what was wrong with it. She said it had music and no picture on it. I told her it was the overture like in a Broadway show. But sometimes you have to dumbdown the product, so everyone gets the act. I like no card.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-19-2009 08:08 AM                        Bill, I play mine with the curtain closed (yah, I've got a motorised curtains in front of my screen....I can't help myself) and I just kill the video if there is a Overture card. An Intermission card on the other hand is a different animal. It was always part of the closing of the first part of a roadshow presentation. BUT, it faded out after the curtains closed in the theatre; on Laserdiscs and now on many DVDs, they keep it on the screen THRU all the entre'act music to part 2, which of course is as incorrect as it is stupid. I just kill the video if the Intermission card is held thru the entre'act music. If they are stupid enough to have an Exit Music card, certainly the video has to be killed for that idiotic card as well.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-19-2009 01:12 PM                        Getting back to the topic discussing GONE WITH THE WIND, I started to watch the special features found on the 2nd disc in the special edition box set on a Blu Ray disc and now understand why WHV did not make a two disc set available as a Target exclusive. If they did, Joe and I and many others would have just purchased only the two disc set. Except for getting another copy of WHEN THE LION ROARS that came with THE WIZARD OF OZ set, all of the special features on the 2nd disc and the CD soundtrack sampler is worth much more than the approximate additional $23.00 one will need to pay to buy the box set. I just watched the ninety minute television drama MOVIOLA: THE SCARLET O'HARA WAR starring Tony as David O. Selznick last night and it was very entertaining. I do not know how much of it was true but I do know Vivian Leigh was introduced to Selznick when they were filming the burning of Atlanta scene and was hired to play the coveted role of Scarlet O'Hara. I plan to warch the 1939 documentary tonight and GONE WITH THE WIND in it's entirety either Saturday or Sunday night. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-23-2009 12:17 PM                  I watched mine over the weekend. My only criticism is that - like the Godfather films on BR - I think they went a little too far "warming up" the color. Just too orange looking! Looked like an old Eastman SP print.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-23-2009 02:38 PM                        Joe, Although I praised the current Blu Ray of GONE WITH THE WIND, I was always bothered by the warm skin tone in the film. As far as I can tell, every video version I had seen of this film presented it that way so I assumed it has alway looked that way including the original IB tech prints during it's original release to theatres in 1939. Strange as it may seem, the skin tone in THE WIZARD OF OZ was gorgeous in the recent BD of that film and I was expecting the same with with GWTW in Blu Ray because both of the film was released in the same year. Yes, I was also bothered by the warm tone used on the restored GODFATHER films on the recent DVD and Blu Ray discs. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Vern Dias Film Handler Posts: 28 From: AllenTX USA Registered: Apr 2009 posted 11-23-2009 03:04 PM                        I found that temporarily changing my projector from a 6500K color temp setting to a 7500K color temp setting completely corrected the excessively warm skin tones in the latest GWTW. Granted, most projectors or displays probably won't allow that to be done simply, but my JVC DLA-RS35 made it a snap. I wonder if the color timer was using a mis-calibrated display, or what could have happened, because I doubt that everone in the movie was sunburned, Vern  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-23-2009 03:23 PM                  That is an excellent idea Vern. I think my TV though not a projector has a similar setting.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-24-2009 01:11 PM                        I downloaded the music on the CD that came with the special edition Blu Ray set of GONE WITH THE WIND to my iPod the other day and listened to it on a bus today and the sound quality was just absolutely dreadful. It was fine at the time but I guess I kind of got spoiled with todays fantastic digital sound recordings. The music from GWTW was rerecorded in stereo and issued on CD about fifteen years ago and I had it but it somehow got lost. I recall the sound was excellent and the arrangement was exactly the same as the original soundtrack. -Claude  |  IP: Logged

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