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Frank Angel
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 - posted 10-17-2010 02:02 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Interestingly, Cablevision's argument is that when their contract with News Corp contract ran out, News Corp wanted to up the price of their programming. Cablevision whines that it's too expensive....that it costs more than what the other networks are charging for their programming. That's like me telling my landlord when he hands me a new lease with a rent increase that it's unfair for him to raise my rent to whatever he deems appropriate because the landlord down the block is charging less.

I guess Cablevision doen't understand how American capitalism works. And as Mark says, it's network TV. Living without Fox might be good turn of events for the citizenry. [thumbsup] And have you ever seen the ghastly programming on My9 (does this station even have call letters?).

If I wanted that desparately to see the stuff they carry, I'd just put up an antenna. There was a time when there was no cable; it took Cablevision over a decade after they wired up Manhattan to infiltrate Brooklyn and areas of the other outer boroughs....and we made do quite nicely -- splendidly, in fact.

The real question is, who needs who more -- how badly does News Corp need that annual fee Cablevision pays for Fox and My9. They will have to decide if they would rather hold their ground for a hefty increase and live with zero profits, or capitulate and charge a rate that Cablevision can live with. And Cablevision will have to decide how much not carying Fox and My9 will hurt them.

But here's the REAL issue -- at some point the lazyass FCC commissioners should step in and demand that they find a compromise or one will be imposed or they should at least get the ball rolling and tell the two to go to binding arbitration, and sooner rather than later. The FCC could easily demand that both parties operate under the existing contract provisions until they either reach an amicable solution or go to binding arbitration. The FCC could easily do that and demand they not go black on customers who have already paid for service. That is if the FCC weren't sitting around worrying about what dirty words can't be spoken on the air.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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> how badly does News Corp need that annual fee Cablevision pays for Fox and My9.

Actually, FOX is losing a lot more money due to decreased viewership and the resulting loss of advertising revenue. This is why FOX should be paying Cablevision to carry their channel.

While no great fan of Cablevision, this is one instance where their interests and ours are in agreement. Ultimately, we will end up paying for whatever cost increases. We all know that Cablevision will not be eating this. There is NO reason why we should be forced to pay for free over the air broadcasts because we chose to watch them on cable. On the other hand, their is no reason why Cablevision should be allowed to make a profit by retransmitting basic cable channels, other than infrastructure costs.

Frank, you seem to be arguing both sides of the fence. You say Cablevision doesn't understand how American Capitalism works, and at the same time you are arguing for forced arbitration, which by the way, Cablevision wants.

I also not that nobody has mentioned that FOX broadcast has been off of DISH network for the last few weeks, over the same fee dispute.

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Bill Gabel
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Just an update:
Fox rejects Cablevision's 1-year offer to pay the $150 million fee. Fox answer back "Not Acceptable".

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Bill Gabel
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Another update:
Cablevision lost the match, Fox wins. Fox programing returned around 9pm on Saturday night. Dish reached an agreement last Friday.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Again... who give a rats ass. I'd bet that aside from Blu-rays or DVDs that very few on here even watch TV.

Mark

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