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Mike Blakesley
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posted 01-11-2011 09:24 PM

"The Incredibles" was the first Pixar movie we played on the break. Not one of my faves, though. I personally didn't find it all that original. But, it will definitely look awesome on Blu-Ray. Me, I'm waiting for the BR of "Finding Nemo."

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 01-11-2011 09:47 PM

I really liked The Incredibles for its satirical take on super heroes. No capes! It also spoofed other elements of late 1950's and early 1960's pop culture from James Bond villains to the fashion industry. Pixar did a lot of work to get many of the details right. That's a big part of why I liked Cars as well. If Pixar didn't bother to roll so many road geek details into that movie it would have sucked (some people think it sucks anyway).

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Jonathan Goeldner
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posted 01-12-2011 01:52 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
That's no guarantee. I have all the Pixar movies on DVD from Toy Story up to Ratatouille.

Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles and Cars had Dolby Digital EX 5.1 audio tracks on their original DVD releases. Ratatouille did not, the DVD just had regular DD 5.1. At least the packaging was labeled that way. I think Toy Story 1 and Toy Story 2 were re-released on DVD with DTS-ES 5.1 or 6.1 mixes, but I don't remember for sure. For DVD I have the "Ultimate Toy Box" edition containing the 1st and 2nd movies.

On Blu-ray, Cars and Ratatouille have LPCM 5.1 audio tracks. Disney could have used discrete 6.1 or even 7.1 audio but didn't. The rest of the Pixar movies available on Blu-ray have DTS-HD Master Audio tracks. Toy Story 3 is the only one that features something bigger than a straight 5.1 track (DTS-HD 7.1). The funny thing is the Blu-ray discs of Toy Story 1 & 2 both have foreign language tracks encoded in Dolby EX 5.1.

So really I don't know about The Incredibles having a 6.1 or 7.1 track. Disney isn't very consistent about this. While they were releasing Pixar movies on BD with 5.1 mixes they released some of their other classics with DTS-HD 7.1 tracks, such as Sleeping Beauty.

yes the DVD rerelease of Toy Story 1 and II did advertise DTS-ES sound.

even the print ads I saw in Widescreen Review for 'The Incredibles' on DVD, promoted DTS-ES sound

what's interesting about Toy Story 3 release on bluray is that on the back it's denoted as having a DTS 7.1, a DTS 5.1 mix and the French/Spanish language tracks being Dolby Digital EX - I'm sure (I haven't checked) that the DTS 5.1 English has the matrixed rear channel of sound as well.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 01-13-2011 02:55 PM

I don't know how they have the DTS-HD 5.1 track on Toy Story 3 configured. It could be mixed purely for standard 5.1 playback. The side wall and back wall corner zones are in sonically tricky areas. A 7.1 track flatly folded down into 5.1 could yield some unpredictable results. Maybe that 5.1 track is there to deal with that. Then again it could have matrix data for a back wall surround to benefit those who haven't moved up to a discrete 7.1 setup. But I think the track would have been labeled DTS-ES 5.1 in that case.

quote: Jonathan Goeldner
even the print ads I saw in Widescreen Review for 'The Incredibles' on DVD, promoted DTS-ES sound

The DVD I have of The Incredibles doesn't have any DTS tracks, Dolby Digital-EX 5.1 instead.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 01-13-2011 03:32 PM

I would be pretty easy to fold 7.1 down to 5.1. For example, the Left Rear surround would come through the left surround at 75% volume and 25% volume in the right surround. It'd work if you were smack in the middle of the two surrounds, but I don't think it would sound bad from any location in the room, really.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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posted 01-13-2011 11:27 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
I don't know how they have the DTS-HD 5.1 track on Toy Story 3 configured. It could be mixed purely for standard 5.1 playback. The side wall and back wall corner zones are in sonically tricky areas. A 7.1 track flatly folded down into 5.1 could yield some unpredictable results. Maybe that 5.1 track is there to deal with that. Then again it could have matrix data for a back wall surround to benefit those who haven't moved up to a discrete 7.1 setup. But I think the track would have been labeled DTS-ES 5.1 in that case.

The DVD I have of The Incredibles doesn't have any DTS tracks, Dolby Digital-EX 5.1 instead.

but that's thing with Disney/Pixar bluray's - the DTS 5.1 soundtracks HAVE the matrixed rear center channel - the decision not to advertise that it's in fact DTS-ES sound is just all out befuddeling

oh and yes, the DVD of 'The Incredibles' was indeed Dolby Digital EX.

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