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Jonathan Goeldner
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apparently the New York Film Festival is showing this on Oct. 1, but I don't understand the format they are showing it in, since they denote the screening as this:

Country: USA | English | Format: 8K Digital, 6.0 Stereo | Running time: 212m

huh???

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Mike Heenan
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If they actually showed an 8K master that would be awesome to have seen. Anyone go?

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Manny Knowles
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Loved Ben. Hated Hur.

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Mike Blakesley
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I have been waiting for this one. Tried to get it from my usual source (the warehouse where our store buys its CD/DVDs) and they don't stock the BR for some reason. So I got it from the WB Store.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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apparently the Seattle Cinerama is showing 'Ben Hur' on their big screen, in 2K DCP - 2K? I would have thought Warners would have released this in 4K?? supposedly it's the same DCP that was shown at NYFF

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Mike Blakesley
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Ben Hur is in a DCP? Wow I'd like to run that again. We ran the film 15 years ago for 3 nights - but it didn't bring much of a crowd, unfortunately. Plus now we can't advertise it as "The biggest Oscar-winning movie in history" anymore!

Got my BR package today. Very impressive set -- way better than the Ten Commandments one. OK, got my two biblical epics on BR, I can relax now.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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quote: Mike Blakesley
Ben Hur is in a DCP? Wow I'd like to run that again. We ran the film 15 years ago for 3 nights - but it didn't bring much of a crowd, unfortunately. Plus now we can't advertise it as "The biggest Oscar-winning movie in history" anymore!

Got my BR package today. Very impressive set -- way better than the Ten Commandments one. OK, got my two biblical epics on BR, I can relax now.

oh I don't know how to call it - what IS the correct term for when a film is released in harddrive form for DLP/LCoS digital projection.

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Mike Blakesley
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That would be it -- DCP stands for Digital Cinema Package.

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John Wilson
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Mike, this may assist you. [Wink] [thumbsup]

Park Circus DCP catalogue

These are the guys handling the GHOSTBUSTERS re-release for us. Sony still hold the rights, but it's too small time for them I'd imagine so they've handed it over to these guys to manage. I don't think the catalogue is quite up to date as GHOSTBUSTERS is not on it, so you may be able to contact them regarding BEN.

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Frank Angel
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Hmmm, thanks Mike -- learn something new every day; I thought/assumed it meant Digital Cinema Print. Why "package"? What else comes with the hard drive? The key, maybe?

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Mike Blakesley
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I assume it's because there is a whole "package" of files that make up a digital print.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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'Ben-Hur' is getting shown on the XD screen at the Cinemark Egyptian 24 on February 2nd next month and I assume other Cinemark theaters since it's mentioned on it's main webpage:

Ben-Hur (Cinemark)

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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It is too bad BEN-HUR is being shown in digital format now instead of 70mm in theatres. I saw the movie in a theatre three times starting with it's first run engagement in 1959 and all of the showings were in the large film format. The last time was at the Cinerama in Honolulu a couple of years before it closed.

-Claude

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Rob Alexander
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I was lucky enough to catch Ben Hur at the Cinemark XD near my house last month. I have never seen this movie, as I always wanted to catch it on the big screen. All I can say is I am so glad I waited. The presentation was flawless. It included the 6 minutes intro music, the intermission, and the 2.76 aspect ratio. I have seen 4K source material projected in 4K a few times, but nothing could compare to this.

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Joe Redifer
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Just watched the first 19 hours of this movie tonight. Will watch the second half tomorrow night. Overture comes on. SKIP! It's funny how horrible film stock was back then, it cannot seem to hold a perfectly steady exposure. Also, I don't remember 70mm being this wide. Were they only photographing at 3 or 4 perfs per frame? The panned dialog is funny, as if they can't quite steer it fast enough. One character speaks and then another on a different part of the screen speaks it's almost as if a technician is quickly turning a knob to get the dialog to come from "over there". The first part of what the character says is halfway between him and the previous character. By the time the character gets to the second syllable, his dialog has stopped moving. Maybe all the characters are ventriloquists? And there are TONS of missing frames. Why are they missing? If TVs can interpolate frames along with software like Twixtor and Apple's Optical Flow, why couldn't the missing frame be restored when they were making the disc? Also, there was a slate at the start of the movie that said "Story of the Christ" or something like that. It is not! It's a story of a young Arnold look-a-like. It's like saying Star Wars 1 is "Story of the Jawas". It isn't!

A very technically inept movie, but cheesy fun so far. Everyone knows such good English!

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