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Topic: explain curved TV sets to me
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Jack Ondracek
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From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 10-14-2015 02:32 PM
quote: Daniel Schulz
Back to the OP, I'm in the anti-curve camp, I just don't get it. Added reflections, image distortion, reducing the number of "sweet spots" for viewing...makes no sense to me.
I looked at one of those at Costco, and my impression was they went way overboard, looking for demo images with lots of well-defined, sharp edges... just like you see everywhere in real life ( ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ). Then, just to make sure you noticed, they found a 70's vintage comb filter and ran everything through it.
Yes... they can draw a line so sharp you might feel just looking at it could cut your eyeballs. What makes something like that a "must have" for nearly $4kBucks?
Then, there's the issue of content. Is it true that none of the current live distribution schemes can take full advantage of what these things can display? Are you then left to build a Blu-Ray library?
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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 10-14-2015 04:35 PM
I agree applying a curve to a TV screen is a gimmick. It's meant to imitate a curved movie theater screen, but without actually delivering any real viewing benefit over a normal flat TV screen.
I would be suspicious of curved computer monitors. Unless the unit is a high quality monitor its color uniformity and accuracy might stink at any viewing angle. It might be kind of cool to have three curved monitors in a wrap-around configuration for some kinds of gaming.
I think LG had a curved smart phone. Not sure if that thing is selling at all.
They're even doing this curved screen stuff with some LED jumbotron signs. The Cleveland Cavaliers have a huge new scoreboard hanging over the court featuring four curved LED displays. Two are 56¾' X 31½' in size, flanked by 33' X 30' boards on the ends. The builder, ANC Sports, says the new scoreboard will give the highest paying customers near courtside the best views. Meanwhile everyone else will get a more shitty view.
I think the novelty of those curved screens will wear off soon.
Some OLED TVs are starting to come down in price. LG has a 55" model that has come down to $3000, which is a bargain compared to what big OLED TV sets normally cost. I wonder if this means electronics companies are finally overcoming the production challenges to making large OLED panels in quantity.
I think OLED, in combination with things like REC 2020 color space, HDR, Dolby Vision, etc. will sell a lot of TV sets -at least a lot more than those curved models. But then again, the price has to be right. It's a lot easier to pull the trigger on a TV purchase when the price is under $2000. When it's over $3000 it's easier to wait.
quote: Daniel Schulz
I really beg to differ. Program quality is hit-or-miss, as it's always been, but there's great TV on air right now. As far as picture quality, on my plasma TV, over an antenna, on the prime time shows that the networks really care about I am getting stunning picture quality.
The image quality I get from my outdoor antenna easily blows away the re-broadcast version coming from Dish. There just isn't any contest.
It seems pretty logical for ATSC 3.0 to leave behind MPEG-2, jump over MPEG-4 and go with HEVC. I'm a little concerned about the variable bit rate nature in the new standard. It's probably a given TV stations will keep on multi-casting multiple channels in their frequency space. But the efficiency of HEVC could give some bean counter the idea of dividing the TV station's spectrum into a bunch more channels rather than have a nice 4K channel.
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Jesse Skeen
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posted 10-16-2015 05:38 PM
quote: Daniel Schulz
As far as picture quality, on my plasma TV, over an antenna, on the prime time shows that the networks really care about I am getting stunning picture quality.
So stunning that you get to stare at a constant network logo, in the 4x3-safe area no less. NBC even puts up full-time text promos for other shows next to it now, and I see that ABC now puts the word "FUNNY" onscreen during all of its comedy shows, I guess so you don't forget to laugh. And even on shows without these annoyances, I've NEVER seen a broadcast here that didn't have noticeable compression artifacts. The CW (Can't Watch!) station here runs all of its non-network shows bug-free in 1080i and has NO subchannels taking away bandwidth, yet whenever I turn that on and a show has a dark scene, there's dancing pixels. If it were something I actually wanted to watch, I'd be pretty upset.
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