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Michael West
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the imax brand has already been cheapened at our theatre - when i first started we had imax hosts, a staff in charge of 3d glasses and we did not leave the booth (if we did for any reason we had to notify our "host"). now we have no host, will be getting rid of the preshow, we do our own glasses as we run the show and we are rarely ever in the imax booth because we have to thread and maintain the 17 plex next door!! if there is a problem the corporation i work for feels that imax is responsible for every thing - even film breaks! and if i do not like this i can find another job. my how things change...

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Darryl Spicer
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Don't they go in and do ADR anyways on those big films to cover up the bad dialouge recordings they do on noisy sets. Couldn't they do the same with IMAX films.

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Robert Throop
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The best part about the sync dialogue in "Panda Adventure" is that it's panned. For a moment I thought I was a teenager again watching one of the 70mm epics from the sixties.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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"the imax brand has already been cheapened at our theatre"
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Juat another prime example of an exhibitor finding out that he is really getting screwed by Imax. They usually drop the extra stuff because they are not making any profit, so why do it. But when they drop the projectionist you know for sure they are not making any profit. Good grief...when will Imax realize they have to go back to selling the systems again....there has to be profit for the exhibitor too, not just the large format company. As far as I'm concerned these systems are still relegated for Museums, and places with huge volumes of foot traffic. Most plex's don't fall in this catagory.
Mark @ CLACO

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Scott Norwood
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Mark: who makes/rents VV sync cameras that run silently without an external blimp? I'm curious!

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Christian Appelt
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Scott,

I have a photocopy of an AMERICAN CINEMATOGRAPHER ad by Clairmont Camera that describes their VistaVision cameras. If I remember right, they were built by Wilcam, and there was a high-speed model and a "noiseless" camera for shooting sync sound.

There is another VV camera by Filmtechnic Fromm from Munich, Germany, which was built for front projection use, designed by the famous Jan Jacobsen who also did the first Technirama cameras and the european MCS-70 (Superpanorama, Hifi Stereo 70 3-D) 65mm cameras. Have no idea whether this one is silent or not.

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Gordon McLeod
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Fries also makes a vv camera

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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"Mark: who makes/rents VV sync cameras that run silently without an external blimp? I'm curious!"
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Yea, there was one Wilcam that was considered noisless, all the Wilcams are still available from Clairmont last time I checked. They are VERY expensive to rent! Figure on a couple of grand per day with all needed accessories. ILM has, or at least had silent running VV cameras as well. There was an Austrailian camera made called the Rotocam or something like that which was also quiet enough for sync filming in many situations. There are also quite a number of other VV cameras around, and A guy by the name of Greg Beaumont made quite a few of them from NOS Mitchell movements. He used to be at ILM but I lost track of him since leaving the film making scene. Not sure about the Fries camera and how quiet it is, but a call to Doug Fries would answer that question. Check out this link.......
http://www.frieseng.com/fc.htm
Mark
P.S. My Stein based VV camera measures 46 db at 3 feet!!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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"designed by the famous Jan Jacobsen who also did the first Technirama cameras"
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I don't recall that Technicolor's Technirama cameras were built by Jan Jacobson, but were modified 3 strip cameras and were done by Mitchell Camera Corp using movements very similar to what they mnade for Paramounts VV cameras....Except for a few Dutch built Delrama attachments that were used, the majority of the Delrama camera attachments produced were manufactured by Panavision and were prismatic rather than mirror based.
Mark

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Christian Appelt
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Mark,

I stand corrected. [Embarrassed] Reading the first version of this article by Gerhard Fromm (it was printed in the magazine FILM+TV KAMERAMANN) I thought that J.J. worked in London in connection with the Technirama process, but in the English translation of the article it comes out clear.

http://www.in70mm.com/newsletter/1999/57/jacobsen/jan_jacobsen.htm

In this version, it is made clear that Jacobsen built a Technirama-type camera, but that it had nothing to do with the converted 3-strip cameras or the Mitchell "lazy eight".
But I forgot to mention his contribution to the IMAX process:

http://www.in70mm.com/newsletter/1998/54/jan_obituary/jacobsen_obituary.htm

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Dick Vaughan
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Pulse : A Stomp Odyssey was also recorded on location. The film won the award for best sound at the recent GSTA conference in Glasgow.

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