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Mark J. Marshall
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Will this be the first "R" rated IMAX movie?

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Michael West
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William
so it looks as if it is just the standard things to watch for, i have had a brain wrap with imax four years ago (the first few center controllers were not quite as responsive as they are now) i will never forget that, it was my first week working the imax.

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Thomas Procyk
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Bobby -- My roommate downloaded the "Ultimate" version of that trailer and I watched it in the "Screening Room" directly from the computer. Impressive, to say the least! We ran a few other trailers I had in the standard "LARGE" size, and it felt like watching a [bs] bootleg afterwards! There was almost NO pixellation in the ultimate version.

I'm running a P4 2.66GHz with an ATI All In Wonder Radeon 7500 hooked up to the SharpVision XV-S55U downstairs, projecting a 100" (diagonal) image at 1.33:1. I say ALMOST no pixellation because you can see pixels no matter what at that size! [thumbsup]

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Chris Tyson
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Are there any IMAX Theaters out there besides us that run First run 35mm movies on the IMAX screen?Reason I ask this is because we don't have any upgrades and are still running the old Dinosaur MK-1 reelunit and 15k 2D IMAX projector during the day and at night have a 35mm presentaion in the IMAX. This works well until now. Warner Bros. has contracted with IMAX to make the Matrix and won't allow us to show it in 35mm. Just wondering if anyone was stuck in the same situation as we are.

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John Pytlak
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Quite a few large format theatres show 35mm prints on their huge screens, with varying degrees of success. Few achieve the optimum screen luminance. AFAIK, Warner Bros. wants to have the quality and brightness only attainable with a large format print on a huge screen.

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David Stambaugh
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"Scorpion King" on the Edwards Irvine Spectrum 21 IMAX screen in 35mm (a "drive-in" print?) was less than spectacular. Oh yeah, it was big, but it was also very very grainy and not bright enough. The sound was great though. [Wink]

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Chris Tyson
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Adam, was your theater always new or have you upgraded? And if you upgraded, what all had to be replaced? We'd basically have to buy a whole new system except for amps and speakers, lol. We still have the DDP and Dubber (which most of our films are ran with due to trailers). Just wondering if IMAX gave you any kind of deal on a new upgrade or not?

David, we showed the Scorpion King here also. And it also didn't look very good either. Some prints we get look great and others just look like... well you know.

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Adam Martin
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This theater opened in July 1999 with a GT, 2 MK-IIs and DTAC. One of the MK-IIs was changed out for a QTRU for Fantasia later that year and has seen all of the upgrades since then. Imax owns this theater, so we get a great deal on equipment and parts. [Smile] (Not really, but you'd think we would, huh?)

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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It wouldn't cost the theatre so much Adam if you'd stop ordering TWO of everything so that you can assemble your home screening room. [Smile]

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Evans A Criswell
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I waited a while to see if anyone else would post this opinion, but...

I really wish IMAX theatres would be used more to show IMAX material. I think more IMAX films should be made the way earlier ones were -- by shooting in 15-perf 65mm to create something that looks great on these screens (by being composed for the IMAX aspect ratio and having a large enough image area on the original film).

I'm really sick of seeing 35mm films converted to IMAX. I remember wanting to see an IMAX movie at the Regal Opry Mills 20 in Nashville on one occasion and all that was playing were 35mm movies (either 35mm prints being projected or IMAX blowups). I just walked away.

I do not care to see a "TV version" of a scope movie like the Matrix blown up to an IMAX screen. If the movie is composed for the 2.39:1 ratio and shot on 35mm, then that's the way it should be shown, on a proper screen to get the proper brightness.

Give us more real IMAX films! Does anyone else here share my opinion?

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John Pytlak
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I definitely favor using 70mm prints to fill huge screens. I also hope the original composition will be respected and maintained for all venues:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/pytlak/spring2001.shtml

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/pytlak/dec98.shtml

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/pytlak/march99.shtml

IMHO, 5-perf 70mm needs to be revived for filling large screens. But if IMAX wants to use 15-perf 70mm, that's great too. [Cool]

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Evans,

I do share your opinion to a certain extent but I feel that the newer IMAX theatres are in business to make money. The original films were made for theatres that were part of a museum or theme porks that were suited for those films. I have seen the IMAX theatre in Wakiki when it was still operated by Destination Cinema and Consolidated play to a almost empty house when the original educational IMAX films were shown. Now that the Waikiki IMAX is showing commercial films in large format in addition to a few selected standard IMAX films, they are doing much better. Consolidated is even considering installing regular 35mm equipment to show commercial films in the IMAX theatre but why they would do that after they closed all three standard Waikiki theatres including my beloved Twins, is something I will never be sable to figure out.

-Claude

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Michael West
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curious, but most of the public does not seem to care about the quality of the image they just "want it really big", as for the quality thing, i think most corporations and the like are successfully conditioning the public into believing that the poor image they see is what it is supposed to look like. like an anti-quaility quality, maybe it is a corporate conspiracy brought on by distribution to sell digital? [Wink]

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Chris Tyson
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I wish IMAX would make better quality 2D films for the audience to have FUN. Not all of us are located in a museum. Most of the stuff they make you can stay home and watch on the History Channel. I like to learn about things but, sometimes I like to get out of the house and watch something cool and exciting too.

It took us about 6 years to get our management to buy a 35mm system for the IMAX. It payed for itself within the first 2 months I believe. We really needed that to break even at the end of the year. Plus our image is really good, sure it's bigger and little things stand out more. That's why I'm here at this site trying to improve that perticular image all the time. I've seen worse at regular movie houseson a small screen. We strive to make the best presentaion possible and the public knows that. That's why alot of people wait to see there favorite film shown on our IMAX screen if we don't get it first run. Or they come back to see it here just because it is a little different than your usual house.

The main reason why IMAX theaters play 35mm movies is because it draws people in and that means $$$$$$ That's why IMAX is doing what it is now.

John, we wanted to get a 5perf 70mm in our IMAX but there are a limited amount of films out there. They shot us down when we suggested a 35-70mm coversion sytem. ?????

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William Leland III
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Chris, we have thought of getting a 35mm projector also to increase attendeance.

What type of projector do you run?

Any draw backs to showing 35mm prints on the screen, beside the image not filling up the screen.

What type of sound eqiument do you run?

thanks, Will

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