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John Pytlak
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Titling the head with the polaroid glasses can allow the images to reach the wrong eye, visible as seeing both images fringing.

The liquid crystal glasses (PSE headsets) switch each eye off and on in sync with the projector shutters, and tilting the head does not cause fringing.

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Jerry Chase
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Thanks to Wm. for the in depth report on monocular vision!

If you twist your head with the LCD shutter glasses, the offset images won't be where your brain thinks they should be. It doesn't make your brain a happy camper.

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Frank Prete
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Gordon,

Can you tell me more about the automation at IMAX and how it works? How similar is it to a standard cinemas automation system?

Also, do all IMAX theatres run advertising off a 35 mm machine. The one in Melbourne does (Vic 8 35/70). The ads only fill about 30% of the screen and look very bad!!!

Finally, does anyone know what the magnification is for an IMAX setup. I know that this depends on the situation, but does anyone know what the average magnification is?

Frank.

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William Hooper
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quote:
Titling the head with the polaroid glasses can allow the images to reach the wrong eye, visible as seeing both images fringing.

Wouldn't you stereo people tend to keep your head pointed the correct way, though? It seems the feedback of "3D better, now worse, etc." while the head moves around would be similar to the way auditory feedback causes you to point your head toward a sound source.


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William Hooper
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Ooo, that made me realize something!

Of course feedback would cause someone at a 3D movie to orient his/her head to optimize the 3D.

So, in all those pictures you've seen of people in theaters wearing those 3D glasses staring straight ahead like the Devo army: haven't you noticed that here & there are people whose heads *aren't* in that perfect alignment, looking like out-of-step dancers in a chorus line?

Those are the stereoblind people.


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Randy Stankey
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Are you sure they weren't looking down to see where the popcorn was? Or they could be looking at their girlfriend's boosom!

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Tom Ferreira
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I had my first experience with IMAX the other day, at the new venue in Providence. It just so happened the feature was T-Rex, which is in 3D. Absolutely incredible. Is this film run with a two projector system-it doesn't seem like the process was any different than a 35mm 3D film such as Friday The 13th 3D. As usual with gimmick films, however, the 3D was breathtaking, but the movie itself sucked. I would have given anything to take a booth tour there.

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Phil Connolly
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Frank,

Assuming a typical Imax screen is 25 meters across (78 feet-ish) and the frame area is approx 69mm across - the magnification required to fill the screen is 362 times.

In comparison on a screen 10 meters (33 feet ish)wide a 20mm frame of 35mm film needs to be magnified 485 times. Trying to fill a 25 meter imax screen in the horizontal axis would require a 35mm frame to be magnified approx 1250 times.

Assuming I've got my maths right, otherwise feel free to ignore me.


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Adam Martin
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Tom, I ran T-Rex for 6 shows a day for four months! By the end of the run, I found myself watching the film with the sound turned down making up new scripts and rooting for the dinosaur at the end to eat the girl.

You can see pictures of the IMAX SR booth setup in the picture warehouse under Cinemark IMAX Tulsa. If Providence is a 2-projector booth, it should have the same setup (although probably more walking room!)


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John Pytlak
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A popular Internet "hangout" for many IMAX projectionists to "talk shop" is:
http://www.1570.com

The projectionist in Providence RI is Jim Didio, who transferred from the Syracuse NY Museum of Science and Technology IMAX dome theatre. He is active on the 1570 User Group.

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Adam Martin
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Back to the top for Evans.

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Evans A Criswell
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Thanks for bringing this to the top. I overlooked this thread when I searched because I was looking for "IMAX" in all caps, and my eyes and brain skipped this one because the subject has "IMAX" as "Imax" and so it didn't pop out at me from the list. Anyway, I tried. Can't win 'em all.

Evans



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