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Dave Macaulay
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 - posted 03-18-2005 07:51 AM      Profile for Dave Macaulay   Email Dave Macaulay   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey, setting that hook was a bit too easy. But I do know the facts, so unlike you I don't have to make mine up (3D cam profile? Good one). I won't bother with any of your other canards. I may occasionally correct the nonsense I see from you though, otherwise some readers might mistake it for truth.
I'm uninterested in why you guys cultivate your hate for Imax, go ahead and enjoy it.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 03-18-2005 08:21 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Somebody call an ambulance for Dave.......

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 03-18-2005 06:00 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark FYI Dave has probably more experience in the design of that machine than anyone else on this forum

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 03-18-2005 06:42 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Gordon McLeod
Mark FYI Dave has probably more experience in the design of that machine than anyone else on this forum

Gord, why tell me that, you should be telling that to Phil. Also keep in mind that Dave has absolutely no experience with other 15/70 machines. One thing is for sure though,he speaks from his asshole.

A good example is that he assumes is that we hate Imax. That is absolutely as far from the truth as could be. I'm quite sure that you'd find that most of us really enjoy Imax, its clones, and even the 8/70 systems for the most part. What you will find that most people dislike about Imax is the cost. Thats why today there are other options and Imax theatres that have been long burdened with rediclous expenses have opted to send the stuff back and install other 15/70 or 8/70 systems at renewal time. Ask any bean counter if he likes all the "Imax" expenses and he will laugh in your face!

Mark

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 03-18-2005 10:43 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Dave, you REALLY need to get off the I-30 stuff ...oh and your high horse. Did you really expect me NOT to respond to an unfounded personal attack on my integrity.

Unlike you, I speak from personal knowledge of the facts...not conjecture and supposition and hearsay.

Your idle threats to me are as boring as you. You need to get a life. You appear to be a bitter, unhappy person for whatever reason. Do something good for others and your community.

I have no further comment about your uninformed and libelous comments.

OBTW Gordon: That's well and good... BUT, keep in mind that NOBODY knows all they "think" they know about anything...myself included.

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Thomas Dieter
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 - posted 03-21-2005 11:06 AM      Profile for Thomas Dieter   Email Thomas Dieter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
just out of curiosity, has there ever been a release of any main stream movie in 1570? I know that 1 hour of 1570 film is about the length of a regular 2 hour 35mm film, so that if they did, the would have to incorperate an intermission to make sure that it could be played.

Also, just wondering if there are any 1570 platters that act like any regular 35/70mm film platter, with the Brain in the center, and no rewind.

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John Pytlak
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quote: Thomas Dieter
Just out of curiosity, has there ever been a release of any main stream movie in 1570? I know that 1 hour of 1570 film is about the length of a regular 2 hour 35mm film, so that if they did, the would have to incorperate an intermission to make sure that it could be played.

Actually, 15-perf 70mm runs 15/4 = 3.75 times faster than a 35mm print. (Assuming same frame rate).

Yes, quite a few in the last few years, mostly "blow ups" from 35mm using the proprietary IMAX "DMR" process, or animation rerendered at high resolution to 65mm/70mm. Here's some links:

http://www.cinergetics.com/films.htm

http://www.imax.com

Many theatres have installed equipment to handle full length features as one roll (larger platters), or with a single changeover (Imax SR systems).

Recent titles included:

Apollo 13
Star Wars Episode II
Treasure Planet
Lion King
Beauty and the Beast
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Spider Man 2
Polar Express (3D)
Robots (current)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)
Batman Begins (2005)

Yes, there are center-fed platters that eliminate the need to rewind (QTRU units).

70mm has certainly undergone a "revival", mostly in the 1570 arena. [Cool]

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: John Pytlak
Actually, 15-perf 70mm runs 15/4 = 3.75 times faster than a 35mm print. (Assuming same frame rate).

Yea..330ft/minute. One really needs to see 15/70 run. That film actually flies through that machine, and those huge decks are really spinning. The end of the film is actally wrapped with a strip of either a clear piece of 15/70 or a strap of sorts.

A larger deck full of the 15/70 feature weighs in close to 800 lbs...no scooping on that one with a "Pizza board" .. lol

-monte

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Dick Vaughan
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337.5 feet a minute but close enough.

On the big features the belly band is made from velcro and the whole lot held(hopefully) firmly in place with clampsfitted into holes on the platter

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Darryl Spicer
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 - posted 03-21-2005 05:55 PM      Profile for Darryl Spicer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
there is a video in the video section of the site that shows the Omnimax theatre. It is very interesting to watch. It shows the smaller quick turn units running and the rewind in progress. It's about 16 minnutes long so unless you have a fast cable modem you will need a lot of patience and time to down;oad the good quality version.

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