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Author Topic: All Irish cinemas to convert to D-Cinema ? Joseph L. Kleiman Master Film Handler Posts: 380 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Apr 2005 posted 09-16-2005 11:22 PM                     Sounds just like the 8-track and 35mm mag dubber used as audio backups to digital soundtracks in a number of large format theaters. During one of the showings at ShoWest, the digital projector went offline. It took them about five minutes to get picture and another ten to synch the sound. Though that was an isolated incident (I've been told exhuast from a backup projector entered the one showing the movie and it overheated), it shows that should something happen in a theatrical environment, there will still be a lapse before image and sound return.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 09-17-2005 12:10 AM                        If I remember correctly the backup print was only run for something like three weeks in Waterloo. I believe it came to the point (after a year or two) where they didn't even bother plattering the backup print.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-17-2005 10:22 AM                     Isn't this the same hype that we heard in this country a few years ago, that in six months every screen in the country would be digital? Who is going to pay for all those overgrown TV's? What are they going to run on them? Is Ireland going to do the film to video conversions of things that are only available on 35MM film? Sounds like a big pile of hype to me. Greedy corporation wants to sell the stuff sitting in their warehouse, tieing up their oppering capital, so they put out lots of hype, hoping people will buy that hype (and their warehouse full of stuff).  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-18-2005 12:58 AM                     I don't bother building up my backups anymore.  |  IP: Logged David Graham Rose Expert Film Handler Posts: 187 From: Cambridge, UK Registered: Sep 2002 posted 09-18-2005 02:27 PM                     Greetings All From a stormy Cambridge; The following is taken from London's 'West End Extra' publication from an article headed "Le Touquet or not 2K?" "It may be worth pointing out that a new Lottery-funded scheme is rumoured to be under way to install FP30E’s in all counties outside the M25, with an initiative to provide 3 perf prints in all those areas, thereby cutting down on distribution costs, and (as it was known in the trade) “manual Rankers elbow”. London will retain its traditional 4 perf prints due to quality issues, with a climate change levy being applied to all patrons in the big smoke. This £1 surcharge will not be payable at the box-office, however; cinemagoers will only be able to pay by previously inserting a coin into the UK Digital Cinema Fund piggy-bank, located in Leicester Square (a beige DP50). A (digital) picture is taken of the payee which is printed within 20 milliseconds, and then presented at the box-office of his chosen film. If the “I want 2K and I want it now” personal picture is not shown, a fine of £11 is payable, £10 of which goes to the Sky High Definition Television Benevolent Fund. Spokespersons for the monopoly owned Leicester Square Cinemas (Odeon, Odeon and Odeon (aka Empire)), were unable to comment on this announcement, but an unspecified source from within the conglomerate suggested that this scheme has been on the cards for many months. London West End Councillor Sir Anthony Regents-Park said "Any move toward giving the people of London what they really want in terms of quality, stability of image and a true sense of being there is obviously a benefit, and I for one would sanction the installation of a mock DP50 in the Square. Probably next door to the SWET booth, opposite the Odeon West End" Many cinema operators in the area however are not so keen on the change. Manager Jack Chartlon of the Cannon Royal, a cinema adjacent to the Odeon Leicester Square, said "Digital Cinema? I'll give you digital cinema! When I stop the hoards of patrons standing outside my show for the latest release I'll show what quality showmanship is! Who can come and see a film here for a fiver, and get a free lap dance to boot! Bloody digital cinema! It's not the films they want to see - it's proper showmanship lad, just like we used to get oop North!" A spokesperson for the Odeon Cinema Haymarket said " I'm not so worried about the advent of digital cinema since our cinema was closed down about three years ago due to water ingress and we ceased trading at around that time" Josef Le-Pierre from the Plage Cinema in Le Touquet, France was heard to exclaim " Vive Le 2K ici en Le Touquet". A more positive advert for digital cinema one could not wish for" From Cambridge I bid you all a very good evening David  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-18-2005 02:54 PM                     I wonder if Mrs Fizackilly is in the boxoffice and Mr Quill running those FP30E  |  IP: Logged Gordon Bachlund Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 696 From: Monrovia, CA, USA Registered: Aug 1999 posted 09-18-2005 07:37 PM                        Gordon, I believe Mr. Quill would be more at home with front shutter Kalees, as he has perfected a way of kick-starting recalcitrant projectors by manually rotating the shutter.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-18-2005 09:13 PM                     Gordon and Gordon, Old Tom would never allow anything along the likes of an FP-30E into the Bijou Kinema.... Mark  |  IP: Logged Tim Webber Film Handler Posts: 1 From: sheffield,South Yorks, UK Registered: Nov 2004 posted 09-19-2005 10:45 AM                     I'm assuming that the take up of dogital will face problems that presumably faced "this new fangled 35mm stuff" wrt format, reliability and availablility. Does anyone know what happened historically.  |  IP: Logged Phil Blake Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 558 From: esperance western australia Registered: Nov 2003 posted 09-20-2005 05:15 AM                        I was watching a current affairs show on tv the other night, which covered the pro's and cons of digital cinema . several cinema owners were interviewed, the mega giants in the cities were just going to spend two hundered thousand on DLP projectors and media players and then show will go on, digitally. The point of view from the small country town operators was gloomy . They cannot afford to change to digital. Most are running very old cinemas, still on change over systems . But these guys are doing what they do best and doing what they have done for a large part of their lives. They make just enough cash to survive and they are happy to continue this way. Is digital going to be the end for them ? Are the studios going to withdraw the supply of 35mm film prints quickly ? or will we see digital and film running side by side for many years? If certain studios decide to only release a movie on digital , those that are still running film won't be able to screen it, this will force cinemas to upgrade or run out of material.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 09-20-2005 10:55 AM                        quote: Paul Konen I don't bother building up my backups anymore. So you still receive a back-up print from the distributor as a matter of routine?  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 09-20-2005 03:40 PM                        Yeah. Most of the backup prints become "the print" if/when the film gets kicked to a smaller house. But yeah, digital projection sure is saving money on print costs.  |  IP: Logged Brian Guckian Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 594 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Apr 2003 posted 09-20-2005 06:21 PM                     There is activity here...the cinema I work in has just taken delivery of a 2K machine...DP / NEC from what I can see (not yet installed). The layout is side by side. An addtional port went in recently, the electrical work has been done and the server (Dell) has gone in too. The 3D release of "Chicken Little" could be the platform they'll use to launch things - just guessing. More when I get it...  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 09-20-2005 06:47 PM                        Dell server? It's not one of those Windows Media 9 on a Dell Dimension desktop abominations is it? I hope your booth doors are solid and lock.  |  IP: Logged Brian Guckian Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 594 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Apr 2003 posted 09-21-2005 08:02 PM                     No, it's a proper disk array...will look up the specs. Plenty of storage I'm told. Content delivery is supposed to be via satellite, but this is not yet confirmed. Things are in train though!  |  IP: Logged

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