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Ari Nordström
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 - posted 01-18-2005 03:26 AM      Profile for Ari Nordström   Email Ari Nordström   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
To me, it's Lucas's endless tinkering with his films that puts me off. They're just films, for chrissakes, and when you're done with them, you're done. Is it necessary to have a dozen or so different versions of each one? Is it necessary to have two when the new film opens?

It's cheap, if you ask me. And I don't mean that literally because that's one thing it most certainly isn't.

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Paul Howard
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 - posted 01-18-2005 07:32 AM      Profile for Paul Howard   Email Paul Howard   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello Guys
I was thinking about this whole DLP before cinema thing to somehow beat film showings, unfortunatly the majority of people wouldnt care if it was been shown DLP, 70mm, 35mm or even Imax. Hell it could be on a 28inch Widescreen tv set to strech mode at the front of the cinema and no one would care.
They are just bothered about seeing it first. Thats why piracy is so popular.

Gone are the days of people (except me or most of you guys) caring about presentation especially when they are happy to watch unfinished films thru the internet in a tiny incorrect frame rate window. [puke]

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Mark J. Marshall
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 - posted 01-18-2005 08:45 AM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It would be an interesting piracy test to release the digital version with watermarking a month early.

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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
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 - posted 01-18-2005 10:21 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The reason why Lucas could influence the direction of the industry was because his first films were wildly popular. Exhibitors will spend money ONLY when they think that money will be returned by an increase in attendence, hence they foresee that they will recoup their investment and in the long run make more money. It's all about the money.

Does anyone seriously think that if there was as much interest level in the first STAR WARS as say, GLITTER, that he and Dolby would have convinced theartres to invest in all those CP50s?

His recent efforts earned him the industry influencing power to get 100 theatres over five years to invest in DLP. ONE HUNDRED verses how many current commercial screens? 9,000? That's not exactly what I would call a "powerful influential force in the industry."

The reason we point out the lack-luster performance of the last SW films is because, if you don't have sellable product, you don't have anything, no matter what the technology.

As for this business of hyping his lastest offering by purposely knocking the film version in favor of the video presentation should REALLY piss off every chain, every exhibitor (minus those 100 who have the installed video projectors and can play his "Special Cut"). Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!! For the rest of the exhibitors I guess they will be relegated to playing the "Nothing Special Cut."

This is business -- forget all the Yay or Nay about the quality or lack thereof of the films -- this is about making or loosing money. And this is where I think NATO should jump in with both feet, fists flying, stop being such wusses and state with one loud voice, "Hey, you want to publicly knock and devalue the product you intend to sell us by hyping the digital form of your release as the better version, your "vision" as you like to call it, and by adding elements that you are not including in the film release you intend to sell us, thus devaluing our engagement, all in a calculated, possibly illegal move to insure your post-theatrical video sales, then you know what, Bub, let the 100 guys who have video projectors book your product; see how much your coveted opening weekend will bring in with your video playing on only 100 screens. The rest of us will happily sit back and pass on this one, given the fact that you choose to sell us a product you have willfully damaged."

Bet digital won't look quite as good to crazy George if all he can play it on is his precious 100 Deee-Cinema screens. Bet he'll decide really fast that gee, film can portray his freakin vision just fine.

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Bruce Hansen
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 - posted 01-18-2005 12:08 PM      Profile for Bruce Hansen   Email Bruce Hansen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Steve and Paul for the updated info.

It would be my guess that Lucas has money invested in DLP, and is getting worried that no one is buying this thing, and Sony now has a 4K projector (but I don't see anything in their info about it being able to put out enough light to fill a theater size screen, anyone know any more about this?). He is seeing his investment turn into a bunch of dead pixels.

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