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Author Topic: Digital Cinema Looks Like A Hit, But Theaters Fight Release Date Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-08-2004 01:43 PM                     quote: No matter how they distribute the digital media it will be very expensive for them to do so. The theaters could just use Kazaa or other file sharing programs.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 02-08-2004 01:52 PM                        quote: The theaters could just use Kazaa or other file sharing programs. Well, at least they'd be using a proven infrastructure that's gained wide public acceptance!  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-08-2004 04:16 PM                        Scenario.... Movies "beamed" to theater(s) by satellite. (Oh baby!) I can see it now..... The foot print of a satellite "beam" is not exactly a pin point. So you have the theater(s) and all the houses apartments etc etc around the theater(s) Being struck by the "beam". Inside each house is a receiver which is getting the "movie" at the same time as the theater. The movie is recorded to a hard drive. After the concession stand worker's shift is over, he/she drives their new Mazarratti to each house and gives the decription code to the owner of the hard drive, and collects their "gratuity". The movie is decoded and since it is in digital form and each generation is lossless, a million copies are made and the movie is on the street before it opens at the theater.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-08-2004 08:31 PM                     I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about theaters downloading their movies with emerging technologies on the way. PCI-X, Gigabit Ethernet and the 802.16 wireless broadband standard will allow data transmissions from 100Mbits/sec to 1Gb/sec. Still, how do you secure the transmission from getting hacked or uploaded to other pirate sites? For every security measure that appears there always seems to be a countermeasure developed just as quickly. So, you can count on snail mail and the "sneaker network" for delivering all that digital data. The whole satellite or broadband thing is dead on arrival as far as I'm concerned. And, still, Hollywood is unable to come up with a solid business model for theaters to adopt D-Cinema. The math just doesn't add up to a logical equation. Honestly, the bulky 35mm film prints just seem like a more secure and reliable system even though it is icky analog.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-08-2004 09:24 PM                        Digital cinema seems to make less sense the more it's discussed. What a can of worms for everyone! As a person who loves movies, I really don't care if digital cinema ever happens, even if I'm intrigued by the technology.  |  IP: Logged Brad Allen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 688 From: Evansville, IN, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 02-09-2004 01:50 PM                     Why all the fuss about D-cinema? They are training everyone to wait for the DVD with their ludicrous release pattern.  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-10-2004 01:47 PM                     I went to a local Regal theatre for an unrelated Microsoft event and went into another theatre to see what the "twenty" was about. I don't see how this article can say that these projectors are acceptable for Live Events, or anything else. Now, maybe a satelite feed may look better but the screen door effect was really severe. This was in a small theatre so even sitting at the back, more than 1 screen height away, the screen door effect was bad.  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-10-2004 02:39 PM                        I agree Paul Our local Regal shows that stuff prior to the film coming on and it's really bad. At first I thought they were doing it (the awful video) for "effect", but it never quit. What's really amusing is they have one stuck blue pixel. At least that's what it seems to be. It is always blue on that one place and never changes, so I assume it's a stuck pixel. It's going to be fun to see what happens over time to the display  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 02-10-2004 04:10 PM                     We now have it in the Regals in Miami. The Image looks like XGA LCD and the installation I endured had 10% of the right side cut off by the port hole and running downhill a la typical cinema slide projector. The image was bright at least and Christie must be giving an additional discount for the audio promo for their projector prior to the 35mm presentation. I was not impressed; I have done better displays in cinemas versus this set-up.  |  IP: Logged David Favel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 764 From: Ashburton, New Zealand Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-10-2004 04:51 PM                     Encryption systems cannot work. As soon as a new system is released the geek network switck oss Star Trek & get to work hacking the code. Look at the failures of the past few years with DVD encryption touted as the be all & end all of data protection. Hell the non copy CDs were beaten by a felt tip pen mark around the outside of the CD.  |  IP: Logged Jim Alexander Film Handler Posts: 71 From: Greenwood, Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Nov 1999 posted 02-10-2004 07:23 PM                        I agree the prospect of D-Cinema is excruciating. Especially if you are a theatre owner like myself. Conversion of the "most" expensive equipment in your theatre to "new and better??!?". Who's going to pay? Is it worth it? All these questions are valid and a real concerns. However, I remember a similar conversation (read arguement) about CD verse Albums, back in the late 1980's. Seems the "True Audiophiles" thought that CD would never take over Album becuase they could never reproduce the "body of the sound"... well here we are a mere 15 years later, and tell me where the ablums are? Hell, for that matter, where are cassettes or 8-tracks? I hate to say it, but somewhere down the road, whether we like it or not, D-Cinema will take over. When, I have no idea. How, who knows. But it will. I would suggest we look into the prospect of becoming part of the solution, and not the cause of the problem.  |  IP: Logged Timothy Eiler Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Litchfield , Minnesota, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 02-10-2004 09:51 PM                        quote: I hate to say it, but somewhere down the road, whether we like it or not, D-Cinema will take over. That Might be true. But if the industry switch over to cyan dye sound tracks is any indication of how quickly D-Cinema will take over. This 45 year old will be long dead By the time it happens  |  IP: Logged Matthew Stevens Film Handler Posts: 37 From: Colorado Springs, Co Registered: Jan 2004 posted 02-10-2004 10:16 PM                        Talk about bootlegging problems, I know a group of hackers and they said they would hack the studios and theaters just to prove that the idea of sending movies via satellite or LAN line would be a dangerous idea.  |  IP: Logged Bevan Wright Expert Film Handler Posts: 176 From: Fountain Valley, CA, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 02-10-2004 11:10 PM                        Security is a serious concern. Without a doubt it is foremost in the studios’ minds. The idea of spraying a perfect copy of a $100M movie (cost) out over satellite to the potential grasp of all the hackers out there is definitely a daunting proposition. Nothing is hack proof, if someone can think of an encryption scheme, someone (or the same people) can hack it. Actually, 35mm with all its ‘analog’ quirks is a very unwieldy medium to pirate well, unless of course you have a telecine or access to a post house. Performance-wise, look at what levels of technology it takes to approximate the performance of film… quite impressive when you think about it. Dcinema will happen some day, just seems that there is still A LOT of work to be done.  |  IP: Logged Timothy Eiler Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Litchfield , Minnesota, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 02-11-2004 08:27 AM                        quote: Actually, 35mm with all its ‘analog’ quirks is a very unwieldy medium to pirate well, unless of course you have a telecine or access to a post house. Or you are a member of the Academy. As recently someone screener copy(s) showed up on ebay briefly  |  IP: Logged

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