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Author Topic: G-Force 3D Aspect?? John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-10-2009 06:11 AM                     quote: Darryl Spicer but after waking up I was still able to follow the plot, if that tells you anything. It does. I expect this to be absolute crap...with rats.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-22-2009 12:47 AM                     Some footage of Avatar which was shown at Cine Expo was in Scope 3D  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 07-22-2009 05:44 AM                     3D Projection specifications are available here.  |  IP: Logged Sam King Expert Film Handler Posts: 120 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 07-22-2009 01:02 PM                     As a theatre with PROPER side masking (common height), this blows!  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-22-2009 03:50 PM                     Mark's link above... quote: Daily use of the Framing Chart will help ensure that all your guests see G-FORCE 3D the way it was meant to be seen! Yeah, right. A daily check? As if any of the projectionists/managers have the knowledge, capability or authority to make the necessary adjustments without screwing up their systems worse than doing nothing.  |  IP: Logged Jon P. Inghram Expert Film Handler Posts: 124 From: Wichita, KS USA Registered: Jan 2007 posted 07-22-2009 08:50 PM                     Watched that framing chart today and it starts off with some clips showing the "breaking the framing" effect. IMHO, it did seem to improve the sense of depth in the image. And just to be clear, I'm not saying the movie is going to be watchable, just saying the 3D effect looked better. Also, the framing chart (the one with Up! in this case) did come in handy at least once. Our techs left the flat 3D channel on our CP2000-ZX at 1920x1080 (apparently they forgot that it can do full frame 3D.) I bumped it up to 1998x1080 and tweaked the masking using the Up! framing chart.  |  IP: Logged Peter Castle Expert Film Handler Posts: 220 From: Wollongong University, NSW ,Australia Registered: Oct 2003 posted 07-23-2009 07:36 AM                     Is this "letterbox to get a 3D effect" like what happened in the end credits of "Monsters vs Aliens"? I didn't see it in 3D, but there was a scene where black bars appeared top and bottom with the W.R. Monger character extending beyond the frame.  |  IP: Logged Steve Anderson Expert Film Handler Posts: 168 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-23-2009 02:02 PM                        I saw the movie last night and it was pretty good. 3D was ok... kids will like it.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-31-2009 02:32 PM                        Problem with 3D has always been that when you are trying to make an object converge closer to the audience than the screen plane, yes, the 3D illusion will work fine placing it in front of the screen UNTIL any portion of the object touches the screen frame. Then, although the convergence tells your brain that the object is in front of the screen, the fact that it is cropped by the frame edge also tells your brain, "hey, wait a minute, that stupid rat isn't in front of the screen at all," and the illusion collapses at the screen plane. Problem is, there are very few things in real-life that can hang in mid-air and not be intersected by the edge of the image window -- underwater fish work great, balloons, yah, but for most stuff in most compostions the objects of importance usually are intersected by the image frame. This forces the DP to either keep the 3D depth to behind the screen and then be very judicious about what shots he converges so that objects are closer than screen plane. Usually those shots in which objects need to come toward the audience are quick and fast so that they are over before the brain can figure out that the object touching the screen edge can't be closer to them than the screen. This letterboxing thing allows the filmmaker to converge objects closer to the audience by having them break the virtual "frame" without actually touching the physical frame. Pretty clever in light of the omnipresent 3D screen edge problem, but pretty lame in terms of all the techincal issues. Of course with the 2D version there is no need for the virtual frame.  |  IP: Logged

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