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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 12-28-2009 06:59 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I found this one, and this one in our keys for 3rd party key generators.

-Monte

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 12-28-2009 11:54 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Even Dolby has the KDM required for Show Player upgrades geberated by a third party....

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 12-29-2009 08:37 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Generating a new KDM should not take more than a few hours though... at worst next day.
Why should it take more than a few minutes to generate a KDM? Considering it's probably done by a person poking a few keys and clicking a mouse. I would think after a phone call, the thing could be generated in about 3 minutes once the film company person contacts the appropriate generating entity. What makes it so complicated?

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 12-29-2009 08:51 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Usually what happens is that the studios don't get all the current booking info from the bookers on playdate scheduling which in turn the depots (TECH and DFS) issues the key via email.

There has been a few times that we had to call up the depots to send down the keys since they didn't get the updated booking info in time. But, lately, we've got that one all settled down.

The only thing I have to check on Thurs nights is that the updated key was already injested, and if it hasn't been, then I get on the computer to check emails for the key updates then copy them over to thumbdrive for injestion.

Then after I've done the injestion, I'll run the program through completely (start it up, then fast forward through the cues til just before end credits, then let the automation finish up the sequence to get it back to the beginning) to ensure that the key works even after the playlist displays that the movie is unlocked for that week's performance.

Granted, having to learn a whole new system, but it's quite an interesting world in all the same - this DCI stuff.

-Monte

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Geena Phillips
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 - posted 12-29-2009 09:56 PM      Profile for Geena Phillips   Author's Homepage   Email Geena Phillips   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm lucky, in that I have direct email access to the guy who gets all out KDMs (of course, we use our digital screens exclusively for Indian content).

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Peter Castle
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Further to my earlier problems with getting KDMs for DCinema, I have learnt that Deluxe, the sole provider of prints both film and DCinema in Australia, is the culprit. They are charging a large amount to generate a key for a subrun - so much that we cannot get drives at all from one distributor.

How is this helping digital rollout?

I should say this is only happening with one distributor. All others seem to be able to provide product and keys.

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Todd McCracken
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Shucks, as long as you are booked it takes me about 2 minutes to generate and deliver a KDM.
However waiting for a booking can take a little bit depending on who is doing the booing.

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Ronda Fitzsimmons
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Hey Monte, I've been looking at digital for my move-over houses in PA ($4/$2). Who did you get to put in the equipment? Can you share more of your experiences? How many screens do you have? How the heck did you finance it? I'm guessing you don't get any help from the film companies via VPFs... Thanks, Ronda
FunTime Cinemas

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Monte L Fullmer
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Hi Ronda - In a nutshell, it has been rather successful in our market area. Thx-Monte

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Monte L Fullmer
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(...and I sent you an email with details of the questions you asked ....) - thx Monte

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Edward Havens
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I don't know if it's because of who we are or our location or what, but once we got booked with Avatar 3D this weekend, we got treated very well by Deluxe and Fox. I got a call from Deluxe just as the booking became official, asking me if I wanted a flat or scope digital print, and if I needed it ghostbusted or not. The KDM was in my email inbox soon thereafter, and the hard drive in house more than 48 hours before the first show.

This is our third Digital 3D title since we added RealD back in January, and if the distributors have any problems with DCI subruns, I have yet to experience it.

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Monte L Fullmer
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..and with our two DCI installs in each of our two discount locations, we've also yet to meet any problems..

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