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Elise Brandt
Expert Film Handler

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From: Kuusankoski, FIN/ Kouvola, Finland
Registered: Dec 2009


 - posted 01-15-2010 08:21 AM      Profile for Elise Brandt   Email Elise Brandt   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry, what I meant by owning a copy was owning a Film copy. The film side of the distribution chain interests me quite lot since I know nothing about it (in the US), but I take it the digital side is quite similar to what we do here. It's just bits and pieces of conversation here concerning films that throws me off sometimeswith notions like shredding films and such, it is never done by theaters here. Or maybe I have misunderstood something?

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Todd McCracken
Master Film Handler

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From: Northridge, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2008


 - posted 01-15-2010 10:01 AM      Profile for Todd McCracken     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh..hehehhe

Yes, sites can own film prints here . Heck, I own a couple of 35mm 5 reel features myself [Smile]

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Olivier Lemaire
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From: Paris, Ile de France, France
Registered: Jan 2010


 - posted 01-16-2010 02:58 PM      Profile for Olivier Lemaire   Author's Homepage   Email Olivier Lemaire   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi all,

I agree with the Jacques Lerouge's assumptions: DCP are not delivered via Satellite in France, excepted in some very rare cases, who tends more on marketing demonstrations than other things...

Most of the Features DCP are delivered via hard disks (Technicolor, Deluxe, deliver from Great Brittain to most European countries) or DSL links (using "local" providers services, like SmartJog, GlobeCast, Ymagis, ...).

Most of the Trailers & Advs are delired by DSL links - disk, DVD/BR or USB sticks are rare now (but still exists anyway). I think we can asusme an 50/50 repartition with hard-disk/dematerialized(DSL) delivery, for now, where you don't have to deliver 5-8 digital movies per week... So, I guess hard disks and physical transporter will still do the job they did for years with 35mm.

Most (if not all) KDMs are delivered via eMail - rarely via phone/modem (some's think this is the most secure way...).

Satellite is used for Life Events in France anyway.

Regarding the "hard disk return rate" that Elise pointed out, we must understand that, in France:
* most operators speaks... french, not english - so hard to read/understand/reply to english speaking UPS/Fedex messages
* the culture, for 35mm, was to let the local transporter take care of 35m rotations...
So, well, I know numerous disks from TDC and Deluxe wandering in french booths, waiting for someone to call UPS... The operator won't probably do it for months... (I even know some disks that are in the booth for more than one year now...).

Local laboratories are delivering there messages in French, and most of the time have contract with local transporters, so the hard disk return ratio is ok.

Regarding CRU dataport, I read the Todd post, and was surprised by the following assumption: "the CRU sleeve (dci spec)". I have probably not understood what you wanted to say Todd, but in what CRU is "DCI spec" related?

Cheers,
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lem

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Jacques Lerouge
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From: Britanny FRANCE
Registered: Dec 2009


 - posted 01-26-2010 05:41 PM      Profile for Jacques Lerouge   Email Jacques Lerouge   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have sent an email to writer of the article i had read.
He said me that he didn't use real stats, but he will get more info in few weeks for France and Europe theatre satellite equipements.

To be continued...

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Olivier Lemaire
Expert Film Handler

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From: Paris, Ile de France, France
Registered: Jan 2010


 - posted 01-27-2010 07:38 PM      Profile for Olivier Lemaire   Author's Homepage   Email Olivier Lemaire   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dangerous to use stats from parties that have an interest in selling this kind of equipments... Probably better to ask labs for what they practice in real life.

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